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2018 tOSU Offense Discussion

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Poe McKnoe

Poe McKnoe

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There were questions before the season how the 2017 version of the Ohio State offense would perform with an up and down senior QB, no proven receiver, and a brand new offensive coordinator and new QB coach. Well, we have answers, and statistically it was one of the best offensive teams ever at Ohio State, and the best under Urban Meyer.

Here's the report card for the 2017 Ohio State offense:
  • Tied for 6th in scoring, 4th in total touchdowns
  • 7th in total yards
  • QB threw for 6th (possibly 7th by the time UCF plays) most TDs
  • 8th in third down conversions
  • 8th in first downs
Yet, somehow, we sit here, a few days after a major bowl (win) against a marque opponent anticipating the future with optimism, but cautious of obvious and ever present shortcomings. To say the 2017 offense, and JT Barrett, peaked versus Penn State would be an understatement. And again the team reverted to its tendencies against the best opponents after Penn State, leaning on conservative play calling and QB power runs to grind out games.

2018 presents some constants, specifically Urban Meyer, Kevin Wilson, Ryan Day, JK Dobbins, Austin Mack, and potentially some other upperclassmen who choose not to declare, and potentially some impact newcomers.

But accompanying those constants are the unknowns, most glaringly at QB. Dwayne Haskin, possibly Joe Burrow, and Tate Martell will look to replace 5th year senior and Buckeye legend JT Barrett. Offensive line will need to replace decorated starters, and throw in a new starting TE. WR group is still looking for the go-to guy, despite Parris Campbell's yards per catch, Dixon's total TDs, and Austin Mack's clutch catches.

Will the 2018 group outperform their 2017 counterparts?
 
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The one great thing about college football is also the saddest. Every 4-5 years you get a fresh slate and this upcoming season it's definitely a mix of emotions. Sad to lose JT but also there's no denying we peaked some time ago on offense with JT.

I'm so happy that we no longer have that security blanket of the QB run. We may have convinced ourselves we need that blanket to survive but much like my 2 year old has found out that's not the case. Security blanket or not we will be fine and we will find a way to make due

Haskins throws a much better ball past 10+ yards and with our ability to push the ball downfield increasing it should really make our run game that much more dangerous.

With essentially 4 returning starters upfront, our tailbacks, all our WRs, and now being more explosive at the TE spot I think we will be more difficult to defend in 2018.
 
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The questions will be answered just how good the receivers Line backs and coaching is. Was Jt keeping the offense a float or will the receivers line and backs be even more productive? For the future and my enjoyment I hope it was JT but I can’t be sure till next fall. Urban’s first 3 loss season or a one loss playoff return.
 
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Reasons for concern and optimism for 2018. The OL is my greatest concern with us losing Price and Jones. Bowen was impressive before going down and will likely be a starter, perhaps taking Jones' place at LT. Taylor is a seasoned back-up and with getting the majority of the reps should be solid at C. Jordan, Knox and Prince will only get better.
Barring injury we should be fine at TE and may get a real surprise if Ruckert is who everyone thinks he is. And RB and Zone Six will be strengths.I
We have real talent at QB and should be able to win with whoever is behind the C. Haskins reminds me of Cardale; a ridiculous arm yet with more maturity and discipline to his game. Burrow has a good arm and mobility and Tate is another JT waiting to happen.

Go Bucks!
 
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Your not always a better offense just because you score more points. You are a better offense if you consistently beat the other team whether it’s 17-10 or 48-24. The wins are what matter. And yeah I know the defense factors in this example.

The point is, the JT era produced more wins than “entertainment” at times but it was characterized for the most part by low turnovers and other factors that produced Ws.

I expect the next era will produce more fireworks and maybe more points. Which is great. I just hope we have as many Ws.
 
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First Guessing OSU’s 2018 Game One Two-Deep: Offense

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The 2017 season is in the books, and if you take a gander at your calendar — and your sudden fireworks shortage — you will see that it is officially 2018. So with that in mind, I thought it would be a good time to take a first guess at the Ohio State two-deep for next season.

We’ll start first on the offensive side of the ball, with the defense to come later on in the day, in keeping with the whole new year theme.

The fun — and danger — of doing this so early is that I have to take guesses on departures, which is not fair to anybody, most especially me. I could be absolutely wrong on all of them, and will be absolutely wrong on some of them.

Quarterback
17 Dwayne Haskins
18 Tate Martell

Obviously, the guy missing here is Joe Burrow. Since Burrow won’t kill the transfer talk, then who am I to do it for him. He graduates in May and will be free to do whatever he likes at that point. I think he could absolutely be the starting quarterback at Ohio State, but if he isn’t running even with Dwayne Haskins by the end of spring, he has already said he will need to assess the matter. I hate talking about transfers because it’s not fair to the player.

Running Back
2 J.K. Dobbins
26 Antonio Williams

And the guy here is Mike Weber, who — if I am being forced to pick — I think heads off to the NFL. He only had 10 or more carries five times this season, and it doesn’t appear as though he will be regaining the starting job at Ohio State any time soon. Weber has over 1,700 yards rushing in his Ohio State career, which is a fairly decent resume for an NFL running back.

H-Back
14 K.J. Hill
30 Demario McCall

Again, let’s talk about who isn’t here — Parris Campbell. Campbell said a few weeks ago that he would think about his future after the bowl game. As a fourth-year junior, the likelihood of him leaving goes up. There is still plenty more that he could do for Ohio State, but Campbell has NFL measurables. Demario McCall has been groomed to step into an H-back role next season, so there has been some preparation for a departure here.

Entire article: https://theozone.net/2018/01/first-guessing-osus-2018-game-one-two-deep-offense/
 
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Poe McKnoe said:
There were questions before the season how the 2017 version of the Ohio State offense would perform with an up and down senior QB, no proven receiver, and a brand new offensive coordinator and new QB coach. Well, we have answers, and statistically it was one of the best offensive teams ever at Ohio State, and the best under Urban Meyer.

Here's the report card for the 2017 Ohio State offense:
  • Tied for 6th in scoring, 4th in total touchdowns
  • 7th in total yards
  • QB threw for 6th (possibly 7th by the time UCF plays) most TDs
  • 8th in third down conversions
  • 8th in first downs
Yet, somehow, we sit here, a few days after a major bowl (win) against a marque opponent anticipating the future with optimism, but cautious of obvious and ever present shortcomings. To say the 2017 offense, and JT Barrett, peaked versus Penn State would be an understatement. And again the team reverted to its tendencies against the best opponents after Penn State, leaning on conservative play calling and QB power runs to grind out games.

2018 presents some constants, specifically Urban Meyer, Kevin Wilson, Ryan Day, JK Dobbins, Austin Mack, and potentially some other upperclassmen who choose not to declare, and potentially some impact newcomers.

But accompanying those constants are the unknowns, most glaringly at QB. Dwayne Haskin, possibly Joe Burrow, and Tate Martell will look to replace 5th year senior and Buckeye legend JT Barrett. Offensive line will need to replace decorated starters, and throw in a new starting TE. WR group is still looking for the go-to guy, despite Parris Campbell's yards per catch, Dixon's total TDs, and Austin Mack's clutch catches.

Will the 2018 group outperform their 2017 counterparts?
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I feel very good about the QB position. I suppose it's "unknown", but it doesn't feel that way despite not even knowing who the starter will be. JT is a legend, but Urban has recruited exceptionally well at QB. Those losers up North would dig up Bo and burn his corpse to have our 3rd string QB coming out of Spring.
WR I'm still not sure. Seems the drops became contagious and Victor now suffers from it.
RB... is Weber coming back? Either way we have JK. Could be amazing if those 2 can spell eachother, but will be fine.
Need to develop a TE, and a couple guys on OLine.
 
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Great news that Weber is coming back, RB depth will be DEEP and very good. Hope the staff does Weber a favor and gives him a respectable amount of carries. Another year to improve and I think he has a breakout season to go along with Dobbins who should also put up some good numbers. I like the idea of the starting QB being more so of a game manger with more emphasis on getting to ball to playmakers rather than asking the QB to pick up yards on the ground. Burrow or Haskins should be fully capable to fill that spot well. If the receivers can get better and work on getting separation and catching better this offense could be one of the best we've seen. O line depth does concern me some but I have to think the staff will have them ready. Can't wait for next season.
 
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Buckeyebred97 said:
Great news that Weber is coming back, RB depth will be DEEP and very good. Hope the staff does Weber a favor and gives him a respectable amount of carries. Another year to improve and I think he has a breakout season to go along with Dobbins who should also put up some good numbers. I like the idea of the starting QB being more so of a game manger with more emphasis on getting to ball to playmakers rather than asking the QB to pick up yards on the ground. Burrow or Haskins should be fully capable to fill that spot well. If the receivers can get better and work on getting separation and catching better this offense could be one of the best we've seen. O line depth does concern me some but I have to think the staff will have them ready. Can't wait for next season.
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I don't care how fantastic Haskins is throwing the ball... this is a running offense. When we don't run the ball we lose its literally that simple.

So next year with 4 returning starters up front and two of the best backs in the big ten we should have no excuses if we don't run the ball 60-65% of the time. Besides Haskins will be INFINITELY better if it's off play action and in opportune moments (like 2nd and short).

A good template would be Georgia from this year. They could care less about being balanced they play the cards they were delt.

I have a feeling there will be 1 game (and probably our only loss) where we get over confident in Haskins and decide to throw the ball 40 times. Make no mistake though this team has all the pieces to be a physical juggernaut next year.
 
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Buckeyebred97 said:
Great news that Weber is coming back, RB depth will be DEEP and very good. Hope the staff does Weber a favor and gives him a respectable amount of carries. Another year to improve and I think he has a breakout season to go along with Dobbins who should also put up some good numbers. I like the idea of the starting QB being more so of a game manger with more emphasis on getting to ball to playmakers rather than asking the QB to pick up yards on the ground. Burrow or Haskins should be fully capable to fill that spot well. If the receivers can get better and work on getting separation and catching better this offense could be one of the best we've seen. O line depth does concern me some but I have to think the staff will have them ready. Can't wait for next season.
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Thats why I hope its Burrow this season actually and then Haskins takes over with one to go for Tate. I love the fact that Burrow doesnt turn the ball over and he's extremely efficient. With the skill players we have, just facilitate and watch the scoreboard light up.

We don't need 4 and 5 year starters here because we recruit so much talent. One season in this offense is also enough to make it to the league
 
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Hi, first time caller. All I know is that this offense hasn't scored against anyone yet. I put that at the feet of JT Barrett. He hasn't completed one 2018 season pass yet. I'll listen on the radio.
 
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