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2018 tOSU Offense Discussion

Discussion in 'Buckeye Football' started by Poe McKnoe, Dec 31, 2017.

  1. mendensa

    mendensa Senior

    a lot to be excited about for sure.... if it all comes together, they could be scary good. And Dwayne just needs to drive the engine, not do too much. Weapons at his disposal everywhere. Just get them the ball and enjoy the fire works.
    Last edited: May 12, 2018
  2. ShowMeBuck

    ShowMeBuck You know what? Chicken butt.

    Had a dream last night, and I never remember dreaming, that we throttled ORST 60-7 in such a fashion that the team realized their potential and steam rolled from there.
  3. Jaxbuck

    Jaxbuck I hate tsun ‘18 Fantasy Baseball Champ

    Were Pierce Brosnan and Serena Williams getting it on with Nacho Wench up in C-deck?

    I ask because if we had the same dream that would just be too weird.
  4. bukIpower

    bukIpower Senior

    Is that in red box??
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  5. pnuts34

    pnuts34 Drunk off of wolverine tears

    This article basically breaks down what I stated. The RBs have to be excited with Haskins at the wheel of this offense
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  6. RB07OSU

    RB07OSU #7 aka Vick the human joystick Staff Member BP Recruiting Team

    Definitely the RB's but I also think the TE's will benefit a lot from check down routes from a pro style pocket passer like Dwayne.
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  7. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.

    New Emphasis, Not New Offense for Buckeyes


    This season, the Ohio State football team will start a quarterback other than J.T. Barrett for the first time since October 17, 2015.

    With Joe Burrow’s departure, Dwayne Haskins now holds command of the position and will receive the first opportunity to be the Buckeyes’ starting quarterback in 2018.

    Haskins is a different kind of quarterback than Barrett, but they still both play the same position. Haskins is going to have to throw the ball, run the ball, put his offense in the proper plays, keep his offense out of bad situations, lead, and compete with every snap.

    Those are the very same things that Barrett did.

    There will be changes to what you see on offense, but the similarities will need to be there as well. Dwayne Haskins is now one of Ohio State’s leaders, and it is up to him to live up to those expectations.

    He will have the same running backs and the same wide receivers as Barrett. The offensive line will be a bit different, but that’s life for a college football quarterback.

    Most of the names will be familiar, and the Buckeye offense will be as well. As to what exactly it will look like this season, offensive coordinator Ryan Day is confident that they’ll get it figured out.

    “That’s the beauty of college football, that trying to find the right plays that fit the guys we have,” he said. “It’s not that we’re starting a new offense, it’s that we’re going to emphasize and utilize the plays in the playbook that fit them the best. So every quarterback’s a little bit different that way.”

    Urban Meyer’s offense is always going to start with the running game and then go from there. Most of the time, the quarterback just needs to distribute the ball.

    Sometimes, however, the quarterback is one of the team’s best playmakers, so their number gets called a bit more. It happened with Barrett and it happened with Braxton Miller. It shouldn’t need to happen with Haskins, but when Tate Martell is in the game, the Buckeyes would be foolish not to utilize his running skills.

    Haskins and Martell possess contrasting styles, which will create a challenge for Day, Urban Meyer, and Kevin Wilson.

    Any offensive designs will need to take their respective skills into account. Fortunately for the Buckeyes, the opposing defenses will need to take it into account as well and prepare for both quarterbacks. That alone will give Ohio State an advantage.

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  8. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.

    Ohio State Football Notebook: ‘They all brace for impact’


    Iron Sharpening Iron

    The Buckeyes may return two starting cornerbacks from last season, but the rest of the position consists of freshmen and sophomores. Second-year players like Jeff Okudah, Marcus Williamson, and Shaun Wade are going to be counted on to provide depth behind incumbents Damon Arnette and Kendall Sheffield.

    Okudah moved into the three-man rotation without the benefit of spring camp, but Wade and Williamson used the spring to its fullest.

    Reps are invaluable for young players, but having many of those reps come against the veteran Ohio State receivers makes them even more important.

    “They bring it every day, man,” Williamson said of the receivers this spring. “They have so many guys and it’s just made all of us so much better. Lining up against Terry McLaurin, Johnnie Dixon, Austin Mack, all those guys, Ben Victor. I’m sure I’m missing guys, but every day they just bring it and it makes us that much better from day to day. All that experience, all those reps they have, we are a young unit, you know. Having that experience on the other side to make us better is great.”

    Sudden Impact

    Of course, it’s not just the Buckeye receivers who are making their counterparts better — or at least smarter.

    Kendall Sheffield is seen as a track guy, and for good reason. He holds the school record for the 60M dash, after all. But he isn’t just a track guy. He is also a physical defender, which was showcased several times last season via penalty flags. While he still needs to clean up some of his physical nature before the ball is caught, don’t expect him to change anything afterward, however.

    “We all know that he’s able to show how much of a freak athlete he is with the track times,” Jeff Okudah said of Sheffield this spring. “And then coming back and having a really good performance this spring. He’s had about 10 forced fumbles. He’s a guy that when the receivers see him coming around, they all brace for impact.”

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  9. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.



    “The quarterback is a product of those around him.”

    That is the phrase that Urban Meyer has used throughout his tenure at Ohio State when discussing the quarterback position for the Buckeyes.

    It was his go-to phrase in 2014 when J.T. Barrett exploded onto the scene and finished fifth in the Heisman voting, and for good reason. Then a redshirt-freshman, Barrett threw for 2,834 yards and 34 touchdowns to just 10 interceptions. Then, he went down with an injury in the season finale. Yet, Ohio State's quarterback production didn't drop, as Cardale Jones led the Buckeyes to a national title.

    It should be noted that the two Ohio State signal callers had a pair of second round wide receivers (OK, Michael Thomas should be considered a first rounder, but he somehow wasn't drafted there in 2016) to throw to in that title season, and an all-time talent at running back in Ezekiel Elliott. Add in a future first-round left tackle and the Buckeyes had one of the more talented offenses in school history.

    Fast-forward to present day, where Ohio State is breaking in a new quarterback for the first time since that 2014 season and has plenty of questions at wide receiver...or does it?

    Yes it is true Ohio State's wide receivers have underwhelmed since the likes of Thomas and Devin Smith moved on to the NFL, but could a change at quarterback improve their production? I believe the answer is an overwhelming yes.

    When you look at Ohio State's receivers in person, they have all the makings of an elite unit. For whatever reason, none of them have stepped up to become the kind of player that you simply can't take off the field. The six man rotation, which I believe should be whittled down to four or five, limits the player's chances of making plays. It does however, give Dwayne Haskins a number of experienced and reliable options.

    After watching Haskins on film, it is evident that his favorite throws to attempt are 'go' routes up the sideline. Just turn on the 2018 Spring Game, and you will see him attempt a number of passes between the numbers and the sideline. These sort of passes are not always high percentage, but they play into the skill-sets of players like Binjimen Victor, Austin Mack and even Jaylen Harris, who have elite size to go along with solid hands.

    It was in this area where Barrett struggled to make throws because of his lack of arm strength. Ohio State's outside receivers didn't get many chances to make plays on the perimeter last year. This season, they will.

    Haskins' strong arm and pocket presence will also benefit Ohio State's slot receivers and H-backs. Just watch Haskins' film against Michigan, and you will notice his extreme accuracy on crossing routes, just as well as his famous throw to Mack.

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  10. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.

    Don’t expect Ohio State tight end usage to dramatically increase in 2018


    At this point, I’m done proclaiming each upcoming season as the one in which Ohio State uses its tight ends more. I suppose that means I’ll be wrong when it finally does happen, but for now I’m comfortable playing those odds. Furthermore, I especially think there’s reason this season to be skeptical as to how frequently the Buckeyes will use their tight ends as pass-catching targets.

    Two-year starter Marcus Baugh is gone, leaving four relatively inexperienced players in the tight ends room. Rashod Berry was the second option behind Baugh in 2017 and has some athleticism, but he’s a converted defensive end. Luke Farrell appears to have taken a big step forward but has caught just 2 passes for 19 yards in his first two seasons. Jake Hausmann, also about to enter his third season, has no catches in his career. The Buckeyes added arguably the best tight end recruit in the country in 2018 by signing Jeremy Ruckert, but he won’t arrive until June.

    A couple days after spring practice, here’s what offensive coordinator and tight ends coach Kevin Wilson had to say about Farrell — who’d just been placed atop the depth chart — and the rest of the position group.

    “[Farrell] is pretty good in the passing game, it’s just Marcus was a very athletic and natural receiving tight end,” Wilson said. “I think Jeremy Ruckert can be a very natural, just naturally fluid. Marcus could sometimes run routes and you thought it was a wide receiver if you didn’t know who was who when he’d put his toe in the ground. So Luke is not a poor receiver, that was just Marcus’ definite strength. I think with Marcus having a shoulder injury, I think Luke’s going to be stronger. I think he’s going to hold the point and be more physical at the point of attack. I think he’ll be better in pass pro.

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  11. ShowMeBuck

    ShowMeBuck You know what? Chicken butt.

    Yeah I’m gonna call bullshit.

    I’ve just heard too much about the current guys and the chosen one coming on board in the fall, coupled with a live arm guy like DH to believe the group won’t see a noticeable uptick.
  12. buckeye4ever21

    buckeye4ever21 Sophmore

    Agreed! Especially with DH distributing the ball around more! If the staff fully utilizes both TEs, Rashod Berry is a nightmare of a match up for defense and has probably the best run after the catch of any TE we've had since Irizarry! I think Haskins eclipses the 4,000 yard mark and it only makes sense that receiving numbers by WRs, TEs and RBs all increase.
  13. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.



    Rotating first-team players at various positions has become a common practice at Ohio State in recent years.

    Last season, the Buckeyes listed four players as starting defensive ends – Tyquan Lewis, Sam Hubbard, Nick Bosa and Jalyn Holmes – with each playing nearly identical snap counts throughout the season.

    The same has been done at other positions including cornerback, where three eventual first-round picks – Marshon Lattimore, Gareon Conley and Denzel Ward – famously split reps evenly two seasons ago.

    You also see a regular rotation at wide receiver, running back, and at times last season linebacker and safety.

    Ohio State receivers coach Zach Smith has gone as far as to say he has to have more first-team players than starting positions – six to be specific.

    "You have to have six," Smith said. "Every year, I gotta have six. I tell them, there’s no three starters. They do a little video board and I tell Jerry (Emig) all the time ‘There should be six guys up there.’"

    It's not just Ohio State, a rotation makes sense for any team with depth and the top-to-bottom talent at a position. It allows you to keep players fresh throughout the game and the season, limit the chances for injury, and get different players with different skillsets on the field, keeping the opposition on their toes.

    But one position group has been seemingly exempt from rotation is the offensive line. Most programs – Ohio State included – have five set starters on the offensive line, and only dip into the depth chart when there's an injury, a suspension or it's late in a blowout game.

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  14. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.

    No Flux for Bucks on Offensive Line, Just Building Depth


    This spring was an interesting one for the Ohio State offensive line. The Buckeyes began the task of replacing NFL draft picks Billy Price and Jamarco Jones in the starting lineup, having to do it with a number of key linemen missing.

    Guards Michael Jordan and Branden Bowen — who were the opening day starters last season — both missed the spring recovering from surgieries. Malcolm Pridgeon, Demetrius Knox, and Wyatt Davis filled in the gaps admirably.

    Isaiah Prince and Thayer Munford swapped back and forth between right tackle and left tackle, while Joshua Alabi and Max Wray rounded out the two-deep at tackle. At center, Brady Taylor and Josh Myers began a competition that may not end until September.

    In other words, there was a lot happening. Despite the action, offensive line coach Greg Studrawa said the situation wasn’t in as much of a flux as it seemed this spring.

    “No, I don’t think so,” he said. “We set out – and it’s like any other spring – you set out to do two things: develop guys fundamentally and then get some depth. Develop some depth. And I think we accomplished both of those things unbelievably.”

    While they were developing depth, they also lost guard Matt Burrell to transfer. Burrell’s transfer, however, is indicative of the depth that the Buckeyes were working with inside.

    Ohio State also bolstered their two-deep at offensive tackle. The expectation was for Isaiah Prince to move from right tackle to left tackle, but by the time camp ended, it was sophomore Thayer Munford on the left side and Prince back home on the right side. Alabi was backing up Munford and the freshman Wray was behind Prince. Everyone got a good number of reps throughout camp.

    “Again, that’s part of the deal,” Studrawa said. “It’s not as much as Isaiah doing it, because he can play both. It’s where the two young guys – where Alabi and Thayer comes along. And getting Bowen – Bowen was out, Michael Jordan was out, so those guys weren’t in there.”

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  15. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.



    This will be the third-straight season Parris Campbell, Terry McLaurin and K.J. Hill are listed as starters on Ohio State's official depth chart.

    The first season, the trio combined for just 497 yards and three touchdowns in a passing game dominated by Curtis Samuel and Noah Brown that never seemed to find its rhythm.

    Last season, with a new offensive coordinator and larger roles in the offense, that production more than tripled, as the three receivers combined for 1,569 yards through the air with each player accounting for over 400 yards through the air.

    It was an undeniable improvement, but it's still a long way from what Ohio State's top receivers looked like their its peak during the 2014 national championship season. That year, Devin Smith and Michael Thomas alone outpaced those three by nearly 200 yards, and when you toss in Jalin Marshall's 499 yards, it's nearly a 700-yard disparity.

    To be fair, Ohio State's next three receivers last season – Johnnie Dixon, Binjimen Victor and Austin Mack – were significantly more productive than Dontre Wilson, Corey Smith and Evan Spencer were in 2014, showing a much more balanced attack through the air.

    But the point still stands that the Buckeyes haven't gotten near the receiver production at the top from Campbell, McLauren or Hill that Smith, Thomas, Samuel or even Brown provided.

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