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2019 Offensive Line Discussion

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RB07OSU

RB07OSU

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Might as well get the position group discussions going and I figured as this position is our biggest concern on the offensive side of the ball, I will get it rolling with a guess at the projected depth chart. Pending some development of a few redshirt guys, I actually think this group can be pretty darn good this year, albeit that Jordan staying would have went a long ways. I really like our starters if we can develop a RT and C, which I believe we will. My stab at it and thoughts

LT: Thayer Munford, Max Wray (I love our starter here, Munford has all the tools to be a stalwart LT and the next highly drafted OL here...and I think NPF could be excellent here in case anything happens, even if Wray is listed second on the depth chart...haven't heard much on Wray yet)
G: Brandon Bowen, Gavin Cupp (getting Bowen back and healthy will be enormous, he might be the most talented OL we have...really liked Cupp coming out of HS and hope he takes the next step to provide quality depth on our interior)
C: Josh Myers, Matthew Jones (I expect Jones to push here but Myers has reportedly improved quite a bit...if he improves on pass pro, he gets the spot but I have always loved Jones as a prospect)
G: Wyatt Davis, Jonah Jackson (?) (heard great things on Davis and expect him to be a great one here, but if we get the Jonah Jackson transfer, it will be a battle for the starting spot)
RT: Alabi, Petit-Frere (I think Alabi gets the nod in his senior year, although if NPF puts on some good weight to bulk up against the bull rush, he is going to push hard...I think NPF is the backup at either tackle spot and will definitely play)

I really think we have to push hard on Jonah Jackson because the interior OL depth is definitely a concern, although I like the looks of our starting 5 and next 2-3 guys. If guys like Cupp, Wray, Jones and NPF all come along and develop, then I will feel a hell of a lot better here even without the Jackson transfer. Of the freshman coming in, only Harry Miller (center) is likely close to college ready. If he emerges, it could prompt Jones to move over to guard and assuage some concerns for depth at the guard position if Miller earns trust to backup Myers. As to the remainder, Jacoby (likely guard imo) needs time to physically develop, Vimahi will likewise need to develop physically (assuming he is even here next year pending the mission), and Dawand Jones is a long-term prospect that needs work in every area before he will be ready to go. But I think we can definitely piece together a good OL for this year.
 
IMO, if we get Jackson, he starts at Guard and Bowen will start at RT. So I’d have:

Munford
Jackson
Myers
Davis
Bowen

Although, I really like what I saw from Alabi in the Rose Bowl. And I believe NPF is the most talented OL on the team, he just needs weight.
 
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bucknut502 said:
IMO, if we get Jackson, he starts at Guard and Bowen will start at RT. So I’d have:

Munford
Jackson
Myers
Davis
Bowen

Although, I really like what I saw from Alabi in the Rose Bowl. And I believe NPF is the most talented OL on the team, he just needs weight.
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I like that starting 5 better as well if we get Jackson. Bowen is definitely well-suited to be a tackle and he has practiced at every spot except center I believe.
 
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bucknut502 said:
IMO, if we get Jackson, he starts at Guard and Bowen will start at RT. So I’d have:

Munford
Jackson
Myers
Davis
Bowen

Although, I really like what I saw from Alabi in the Rose Bowl. And I believe NPF is the most talented OL on the team, he just needs weight.
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RB07OSU said:
I like that starting 5 better as well if we get Jackson. Bowen is definitely well-suited to be a tackle and he has practiced at every spot except center I believe.
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I would love to get Jackson, but if we don't I think Bowen could be a suitable starter at G. I don't see Bowen beating out both NPF and Alabi at RT.
My starting 5 with Jackson:
Munford
Jackson
Myers
Davis
NPF

Without:
Munford
Bowen
Myers
Davis
NPF
 
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If we get Jackson I have:

Munford
Jackson
Myers
Davis
Alabi

I know Bowen was a stud before his injury and nobody is a bigger fan of NPF long term than me. I just see Bowen’s 3 surgeries as a huge hurdle and the youth of NPF still being a factor. To me those 2 are the first 2 off the bench in terms of depth if we get Jackson. IMO, either can play G or OT but best fit of course is Bowen at G and NPF at OT. I love the fact that Jackson, should he come, can be C or G and that flexibility is huge. And, if he comes he’s a definite starter and I would pencil him in at G and assume the experience Myers has gained with the system gives him a lead at C.

So with Jackson I have:

Munford
Jackson (experienced veteran on that left side)
Myers
Davis
Alabi (most underrated OL on the team)

If Jackson comes he can be G or C but gets first look at LG. If he doesn’t come, I have Bowen in his spot. And as mentioned, Bowen and NPF are the first two depth guys. Hard for me not to have Munford, Davis and Alabi as very likely starters and, given what we heard about his progress and time in the system, Myers is hard to deny as well. Bowen would be in pen not pencil if not for the 3 surgeries.

In terms of impact to team, this is my wish list on importance.
1.) Get Jackson
2.) Bowen gets back to form by end of fall camp
3.) Myers locks down starter spot preferably at C
4.) NPF is making a strong push by end of fall camp.
5.) Someone else starts making some noise (Jones, Wray, Cupp, etc)

If the first 3 things all happened, paint the end zones.
 
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Hstead said:
The Oline will be better than last years IMHO. The talent is there, hopefully they have been developed.
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We won't be as freakish but IMO we will have an OL that is nastier.

Davis and Meyer would be upgrades when it comes to run blocking over Jordan/Knox/Pridgeon.

If we can add Jackson on the OL we have a really good first 8 or so.
 
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bucknut502 said:
Are you saying that due to Bowen’s injury? Because when he went down, he was a stud on that OLine!
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I think Bowen's best position is OG, and that NPF and Alabi are better OTs.
And I don't see him beating out Jackson, if we were to get his transfer. But that's a good problem to have if Bowen is essentially our "6th man"
 
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Mentioned this in Fields’ thread; it belongs here too.

The protection was fine when FAU didn’t blitz.

When the Owls did blitz, as often as not the protection should have been shifted, and it wasn’t. Even before seeing the game tape, Ryan Day said Fields missed a lot of protection calls.

Fields will improve in calling protections

The line looked fine otherwise, apart from seeming to lose its edge (which does bother me).

They showed tremendous potential though. I haven’t seen a push up front like we had on the first few drives in... well... not for a very long time
 
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