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2020-2021 College Basketball Discussion (Official Thread)

even if he's a grad transfer (i've not seen anything to indicate that he is) or is granted a waiver for immediate availability, he should still take a year off to work on his game. any guard who doesn't need to be defended outside of 8 feet is a waste on offense.

Yeah he didn't look comfortable at all offensively
 
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The 12 most important NBA draft stay-or-go decisions

Two months ago, back before the 2020 NBA Draft deadline had passed, the NBA Draft Combine had been postponed and the deadline for underclassmen to withdraw from the draft was still June 3rd, we put together a list of the 12 most influent NBA Draft stay-or-go decisions.

Since then, much has changed.

Malachi Flynn made it official that he will be leaving San Diego State, which is probably the correct decision. Immanuel Quickley, Jay Scrubb and, it appears, Ayo Dosunmu will be following him to the NBA. On the other hand, Jeremiah Robinson-Earl and Wendell Moore are both heading back to school while Jalen Suggs has, for now, passed on the professional opportunities that were afforded him.

But there are still plenty of impact players that have a decision left to make.

Here are the 12 most important decisions.

1. LUKA GARZA, Iowa

This one should be obvious. Garza is coming off of a season where he averaged 23.8 points and 9.8 boards for a top 25 team, was named a first-team All-American and put himself alongside Dayton’s Obi Toppin in the race for National Player of the Year.

But he’s also in a unique spot where he doesn’t really project as a great pro because of his lack of athleticism and mobility. How often does a player that is that unquestionably great return for another year in the collegiate ranks? Cassius Winston did it. Doug McDermott did it. They were both preseason National Player of the Year candidates. It’s a big deal having him on the floor, to say nothing of the impact that he has on everyone else on that Iowa roster.

Depending on how the chips fall, I think that Iowa can still be in the mix as a top 25 team without Garza, and I don’t think that it would be crazy if Garza opted to take a deal overseas. He can make a lot of money in Europe.

But with him back?

I think this team is capable of getting to a Final Four and winning a national title.

2. XAVIER TILLMAN, Michigan State

Michigan State is going to take a hit next season because they are losing Cassius Winston, but the Spartans will still have a chance to win the Big Ten title if they bring back Xavier Tillman.

For my money, Tillman had an All-American junior season. He’s the anchor of Michigan State’s defense, a leader in the program on and off the floor and an underrated weapon offensively because of his ability to pass the ball. He’s the piece that brings everything else together for this roster.

And there are going to be some weapons there. Rocket Watts will be a year older, Gabe Brown, Malik Hall and Marcus Bingham. Joey Hauser will be eligible to play, and there’s a chance that Josh Langford will be back for his final season. Aaron Henry declared for the draft, but it seems fairly likely he’ll be back for his junior season.

But without Tillman, that is all just window dressing.

I would draft Tillman in the late first round if I was an NBA team. He’s already married. He had his second child in February. The smart financial decision here would probably be to enter the draft. That said, he may be a guy that can improve his draft spot by being the focal point offensively. Will

WHAT ABOUT AARON HENRY?
Henry is clearly a valuable piece to the puzzle for the Spartans, as is Josh Langford, who may or may not be returning after a foot injury cost him the 2019-20 season. Losing Henry would be a blow, but the sense I get is that he will be back in school.

Entire article: https://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2020/05/19/2020-nba-draft-stay-or-go-decisions/

Just sayin': It's interesting that the first 2 are B1G players.
 
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Villanova tops college basketball's Way-Too-Early Top 25 for 2020-21

We're entering an offseason of uncertainty in college basketball. Not only is there trepidation on the part of potential NBA draft early-entrants and athletic directors looking into making coaching changes, but it's also impossible for coaches to go out and recruit the final players in the 2020 class. Moreover, we could see transfer eligibility rules changing in the near future.

In other words, rosters could look dramatically different a few months from now -- or there could be much less turnover than we're used to.

Either way, here's our first guess at the landscape of the 2020-21 season. We're going to constantly update this throughout the offseason as players declare for the draft and transfers and recruits make decisions. The most likely outcome in terms of early-entry players is factored into the rankings.

It's only 232 days until the 2020 Champions Classic ...

1. Villanova Wildcats

2. Creighton Bluejays

3. Gonzaga Bulldogs


4. Baylor Bears

5. Kentucky Wildcats

6. Duke Blue Devils

7. Iowa Hawkeyes


8. Virginia Cavaliers

9. Michigan State Spartans

10. Kansas Jayhawks

11. North Carolina Tar Heels

12. Texas Tech Red Raiders


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13. Ohio State Buckeyes

Which Ohio State will show up next season? The one that started 11-1 and sat near the top of the rankings? Or the one that lost six of seven to drop to 2-6 in the Big Ten -- or the one that won nine of its last 12? I think it's something more like the third option, even though there are some personnel issues entering the offseason. One of those was addressed over the weekend, when Harvard graduate transfer Seth Towns -- our No. 1 transfer -- picked the hometown Buckeyes over Duke. Towns will add perimeter shooting, while California transfer Justice Sueing brings scoring punch after sitting out last season. C.J. Walker, Duane Washington and Luther Muhammad are all back in the backcourt. What happens up front? If Kaleb Wesson turns pro, coach Chris Holtmann could be short on interior options. If Wesson returns, Ohio State will rise several spots in the rankings.

14. Tennessee Volunteers

15. Wisconsin Badgers

16. Houston Cougars

17. San Diego State Aztecs

18. LSU Tigers

19. Michigan Wolverines

20. Arkansas Razorbacks

21. Colorado Buffaloes

22. Florida State Seminoles

23. Oregon Ducks

24. West Virginia Mountaineers

25. Richmond Spiders

Entire article: https://www.espn.com/mens-college-b...llege-basketball-way-too-early-top-25-2020-21

Gonzaga the new No. 1 in college basketball's Way-Too-Early Top 25 for 2020-21

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22. Ohio State Buckeyes
Previous: 17

I might have been overly aggressive with the Buckeyes in the first edition of the rankings, when they were No. 13. Since then, though, they lost Luther Muhammad to Arizona State, lost D.J. Carton to Marquette and are expecting Kaleb Wesson to keep his name in the NBA draft. That's a lot of talent, minutes and production heading out the door earlier than scheduled. So where does Chris Holtmann turn? He still brings back the starting backcourt of CJ Walker and Duane Washington, while transfers Seth Towns (Harvard) and Justice Sueing (California) should provide a lot of offense from the wing. Size and consistency up front will be the big key. Kyle Young showed flashes last season, especially on the offensive glass, and rising sophomore E.J. Liddell could be a future matchup problem. One name to watch is incoming four-star freshman Zed Key, an underrated recruit who should be ready for an immediate impact. Holtmann has won at least 20 games in each of his past seven seasons as a head coach; another one is likely on the way.

Projected starting lineup:

CJ Walker (8.7 PPG, 3.5 APG)
Duane Washington (11.5 PPG)
Seth Towns (16.0 PPG, 6.7 RPG at Harvard)
E.J. Liddell (6.7 PPG, 3.8 RPG)
Kyle Young (7.5 PPG, 5.8 RPG)

Entire article: https://www.espn.com/mens-college-b...llege-basketball-way-too-early-top-25-2020-21
 
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Gonzaga the new No. 1 in college basketball's Way-Too-Early Top 25 for 2020-21

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22. Ohio State Buckeyes
Previous: 17

I might have been overly aggressive with the Buckeyes in the first edition of the rankings, when they were No. 13. Since then, though, they lost Luther Muhammad to Arizona State, lost D.J. Carton to Marquette and are expecting Kaleb Wesson to keep his name in the NBA draft. That's a lot of talent, minutes and production heading out the door earlier than scheduled. So where does Chris Holtmann turn? He still brings back the starting backcourt of CJ Walker and Duane Washington, while transfers Seth Towns (Harvard) and Justice Sueing (California) should provide a lot of offense from the wing. Size and consistency up front will be the big key. Kyle Young showed flashes last season, especially on the offensive glass, and rising sophomore E.J. Liddell could be a future matchup problem. One name to watch is incoming four-star freshman Zed Key, an underrated recruit who should be ready for an immediate impact. Holtmann has won at least 20 games in each of his past seven seasons as a head coach; another one is likely on the way.

Projected starting lineup:

CJ Walker (8.7 PPG, 3.5 APG)
Duane Washington (11.5 PPG)
Seth Towns (16.0 PPG, 6.7 RPG at Harvard)
E.J. Liddell (6.7 PPG, 3.8 RPG)
Kyle Young (7.5 PPG, 5.8 RPG)

Entire article: https://www.espn.com/mens-college-b...llege-basketball-way-too-early-top-25-2020-21
Missed this earlier, but I do not see Justice Sueing being named in that starting lineup. An obvious error, because clearly Sueing should start due to the fact that he is better than all of those other guys.
 
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no conference thread yet, but here's how i see things shaking out. specific ranking is not nearly as significant as the grouping.

1. wisconsin
2. iowa (assuming garza returns)
3. msu (assuming tillman returns)
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4. osu
5. illinois (assuming kockburn returns)
6. ttun (assuming livers returns)
7. rutgers
8. indiana
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9. purdue
10. maryland
11. minnesota
12. psu
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13. nebraska
14. northwestern


top 7 look like tournament bids. after that, we'll see.

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edit: initially had rutgers at #11. didn't realize harper and baker are returning. adding a top-50 center will help, too. moved 'em up to second tier, which means i think 8 teams look worthy of tournament bids. conference looks really strong on paper. don't see a national title contender, but do i see a conference not unlike last season's.
 
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After transferring from Wisconsin to Nebraska, Kobe King won't be playing for Cornhuskers after all

The 6-foot-4 shooting guard would have been a nice addition for the Cornhuskers, who are retooling their roster entering Hoiberg's second season as coach. He was starting and averaging 10 points per game for Wisconsin as a junior before deciding to transfer. King wrote in an Instagram post announcing his departure from Wisconsin that he realized "this program is not the right fit for me as a player and person."

It's unclear whether the Wisconsin native intends to continue his college career elsewhere. But King should have plenty of suitors if he plans to use his final year of eligibility. King is ranked No. 7 on CBS Sports' list of traditional transfers in the 2020 recruiting cycle.

His career 29.6% 3-point shooting percentage needs improvement. But King is a skilled mid-range player who is good at getting to the basket, and he would have likely been a top offensive option at Nebraska. The Cornhuskers finished 7-25 (2-18 Big Ten) in Hoiberg's first season.

Entire article: https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...ng-wont-be-playing-for-cornhuskers-after-all/

At one time wasn't Ohio State interested in Kobe King?
 
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UConn is back in the Big East and the Huskies now have a chance to regain their past glory

UConn and the Big East should have never split, but as of July 1, they are finally back together


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Exactly seven years ago the University of Connecticut officially became a member of the American Athletic Conference.

Over the ensuing 2,000-plus days, the majority of Huskies fans bemoaned their beloved and bygone Big East fellowship, hopeful but perma-cynical things could ever go back to how they once were.

If you can't smugly look down on the Providence Friars within the cozy confines of a shared conference, what guiding purpose is there to life?

Today, 2,557 days removed from July 1, 2013, UConn is officially back in the Big East. The multiple necessary votes to make this a reality came in the summer of 2019, meaning the ramp-up for a celebratory re-inauguration had been building for essentially a year. But the official changing of allegiances here on July 1, 2020, marks a rare instance in that a university and a conference have admitted their initial mistakes in the mass-realignment craze of the 21st century and subsequently course-corrected.

The same can't be said of Rutgers, Maryland, Nebraska, Boston College, Missouri and others in awkwardly conjoined conferences.

Entire article: https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...now-have-a-chance-to-regain-their-past-glory/
 
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