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2020 tOSU Defense

Discussion in 'Buckeye Football' started by ScriptOhio, Jan 18, 2020.

  1. Buckeye86

    Buckeye86 I do not choose to discuss it

    Can we please drop Hafley’s deep safety and just let Coombs/Mattison run what they’re comfortable with and/or what they need to run given the DB situation?
     
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  2. JohnnyCockfight

    JohnnyCockfight Beer is God's proof that he loves us.

    Also, can Les Wexner buy a new achilles tendon for Cam Brown and get him back out there?
     
  3. bukIpower

    bukIpower Senior

    Read again fellas.

    If Joel fucking Clatt can pick apart our defense you should not be making 2 million a year.
     
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  4. Bestbuck36

    Bestbuck36 It's a brand new Day!!

    I knew we should've backed up the Brinks truck for Marcus Freeman when we had the chance.

    In what world does your defense get better by hiring a bunch of fucking michigan coaches????
     
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  5. Steve19

    Steve19 Watching. Always watching. Staff Member

    They don't want to see Wisconsin this year. Many weaknesses exposed today.

    Let's all remember, normally they would be starting the B1G season now.
     
  6. OregonBuckeye

    OregonBuckeye Semper Fi Buckeyes

    Saw a lot of comparisons to the 2018 D but I see more similarities to the 2017 D. It wasn't a complete train wreck like 2018 but it had a lot of bad moments/games, including giving up over 400 yards passing to IU
     
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  7. ShowMeBuck

    ShowMeBuck You know what? Chicken butt.

    Please, nobody say “back 7” when talking defensive troubles. The LB group is our strength.

    It is an issue with the secondary and the scheme in particular.

    For blame I go:

    80% coaching/scheme
    20% players

    And I probably should shift even more on scheme.

    Yeah I know we don’t have 2 guys that went in the first round and a guy in Fuller that was massively undervalued.

    That’s all true.

    But look back at the last 5 years of recruiting.

    Teams are doing better with lesser talent than our secondary has. And that’s coaching/scheme.

    I think Coombs is an elite recruiter and a good/great position coach. But that doesn’t mean they guy instantly earns my respect as a DC. That’s a different animal entirely.

    Put it this way, I had little to no knowledge on Hafley to give me reason to be excited when he was hired. When Hafley got the job, Coombs had a far more impressive and well known reputation among the casual fan yet after just one year on the staff everyone knew they guy was legit.

    That’s the mark of an elite DC.

    Edit: why is it the 2nd half let downs are ALWAYS blamed on “effort” etc and lays at the feet of the players and never is discussed as the coaches are getting schooled in the second half and don’t know how to adjust?
     
    Last edited: Nov 21, 2020
  8. dragurd

    dragurd Senior

    The main thing is when we got up 28 and they were now threat to run why did we keep the Vanilla 4-3 look the rest of the game till the last drive. They were running 4 or 5 wide the whole game. Should have gone nickle and taken one of the LBs off of the field not just keep running warner out wide like he's a CB.
     
  9. ShowMeBuck

    ShowMeBuck You know what? Chicken butt.

    Is Warner better than our 5th DB?
     
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  10. Fungo Squiggly

    Fungo Squiggly Mortal enemy of all things Bucky Yahoo Pickem Champ Former Game Champion '18 Keeper League Champ '18 BPCFFB II Champ

    shit. I might be better than our 5th dB.
     
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  11. dragurd

    dragurd Senior

    Against the run probably. As a CB I'd be worried as hell if that was the case.
     
  12. ShowMeBuck

    ShowMeBuck You know what? Chicken butt.

    I agree. Just hate seeing Warner used in any kind of unflattering way, although I know that wasn’t your point. Pete is legit.
     
  13. Buckeneye

    Buckeneye I lead, you follow.

    It's going to take time to get this secondary to where it needs to be. Time and a dose of health.

    That having been said, it hurts my heart to know that the best defense this side of 2005 didn't win a championship.
     
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  14. ShowMeBuck

    ShowMeBuck You know what? Chicken butt.

    The shit sandwich is Schiano<Hafley>Coombs

    Haf looks incredible when you consider that we are right back to some of our old ways.
     
    Last edited: Nov 21, 2020
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  15. dragurd

    dragurd Senior

    Yeah nothing against warner. He's really good in coverage for a linebacker. Doesn't mean I want any part in him playing CB.
     
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