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2021 CFB Playoff Discussion

In latitude but not in attitude.

Edit: To clarify, this is not a knock. One of my favorite places I’ve ever lived was Cincy. Absolutely love the city.

I don't know Cincinnati very well, but I can say that I've enjoyed my visits there. It's very picturesque along the riverfront and the Sign Museum is a good time.

I'm not a fan of that Skyline stuff, but I went to some place in Ft. Washington that had a similar "chili" that was pretty decent on a burger. I read somewhere that Cincinnati "Chili" is actually more similar to some sort of Greek meat sauce than the Tex-Mex "Chili" that most Americans generally think of when they think about Chili. I'll just stop there as I feel that this topic could possibly open up a can of worms.
 
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Cincinnati chili is not chili - it might be many things to many people, but it is not chili. The next time you stop in, try Arnold's restaurant - modest food, modest prices, but a great OLD bar. And then there's my God son's award-winning Velvet Smoke BBQ out in Harrison right off of 74, and someplace close to the Greyhound Tavern in Covington.
 
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This was the article I read about Cinci Chili:

CHILI as you’ve never had it
A Fresh Take
https://www.timesargus.com/chili-as...cle_f8504aaa-7ac9-5e98-b621-ef3942c8339f.html
I trust that if you’re planning food for Sunday’s football showdown, your menu’s set and relies mostly on go-to favorites. Maybe chili’s part of that menu; if so, it’s a likely a favorite standby. I firmly agree that that’s the way it should be. You don’t want this big event ruined by an untested recipe. That said, there’s a relatively small pocket surrounding Cincinnati, Ohio where chili is either Skyline or Gold Star, and hugely popular. It’s also not at all what you’d expect. The way it’s ordered and the way it’s served are the first tip-off that if you’ve never experienced it, you’re in for something new.

Cincinnati chili is not what the rest of the world defines as chili, as various as that is. It’s a meat sauce based on a Greek recipe that’s served over spaghetti. The story goes that Nicholas Lambrinides, an immigrant from Kastoria, Greece, wasn’t finding what was likely makaronia me kima to be a popular menu item, until someone suggested making it seem more recognizable by recasting it as chili. The original Skyline brand was launched in 1949 and grew into a chain of chili parlors across the local area.

My first visit to the iconic Skyline at Clifton and Ludlow, just down the hill from the university, was, as is common, a late-night weekend outing with a group of other students during my first term. Water from the steam table had condensed on the plate glass, dripping down all the windows in the place. Swarthy men with prodigious hair on their arms and white aprons tied around their waists dished it up fast, as if they’d been doing it their whole lives – which was probably the case. When it came to placing my order, I wasn’t just out of my element. I disgraced myself by ordering only one cheese coney, branding myself as outside the recognized order of the cognoscenti.


Cincinnati chili is served two ways – either as cheese coneys or over spaghetti forked out of large crocks and topped at minimum with finely shredded cheddar. For the coneys, the dogs and buns are only about 4” long, with yellow ballpark mustard slapped on efficiently with something like a chopstick, chopped onions piled on, and topped with a mound of fluffy shredded yellow cheese. This is managed several at a time, assembly-style, on long, narrow trays balanced down the length of one arm, then slid onto small oval dishes and slung onto the counter next to the requisite hot sauce.

A three-way is chili, spaghetti and cheese dished out edge-to-edge on the same small oval plates, the cheese piled high. A four-way is chili, spaghetti, cheese and chopped onions; and a fiveway is chili, spaghetti, cheese, onions and beans. They come with a monkey dish of oyster crackers, and you’d better douse your plate with hot sauce or your neighbor might casy a sidelong glance your way labeling you a lightweight. The oyster crackers are just something you come to accept, then to expect. It can’t be explained any other way.


What makes Cincinnati chili unique is the flavor. It’s now accepted as a given that unsweetened bakers chocolate is in the mix, although the recipe is as closely guarded by the family as is Heinz 57, KFC and the monks that produce Chartreuse. It’s generally assumed to include chili powder, cumin, coriander, cinnamon and allspice, with maybe a dash of clove or not. Frankly, there aren’t any recipes I’ve tested that are authentic, but chocolate adds the unmistakable depth of flavor – just as it does in the mole negro of Oxaca, Mexico. Vinegar and Worcestershire is where most recipes go south. Even America’s Test Kitchen’s recipe was a miss. Despite what’s widely claimed, the version at Hard Times Cafés around DC aren’t anywhere close either.

The only way to get Skyline outside the Cincinnati area is to order it online, either in cans (definitely authentic) or as spice packets (promising, but I can’t vouch for them.) Even without the authentic atmosphere of a chili parlor, it’s at minimum a once-in-your-life experience best shared with a group of friends watching a game with some cold beer. It’s imperative that you do not add the onions, beans or anything foreign to the chili and that you top it with clouds of finely grated cheddar, individual dishes of oyster crackers and a bottle of hot sauce within reach. If you’ve a mind to doctor anything, just make a separate batch of what you already know!

These days, both Skyline and Gold Star are franchised for miles outside the city, in boxy buildings which feature drive-through windows. Believe it or not, minivan moms will reach into their bag and hand a cheese coney to a child in the backseat as the shredded cheese falls all over the car. That’s how dedicated even moms are to Cincinnati chili.
 
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One of my favorite Cincinnatian's used to drive his tank and half track in Hamilton and another county on the east side. LOL

Cops kept giving him tickets and he called them the Gestapo and shit and generally told em to fuck off and kept on going. Hahaha
 
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That's it.

The guy who built that was very interesting. Apparently during WW1 he temporarily died of meningitis, came back to life, and then military medics supposedly used his blood to create a serum to help others treat meningitis.

His wife, who was in the states when she heard he died, remarried, but it worked out as he ended up chilling in Europe to study medieval architecture and moved to Ohio to start building that castle. I think he was originally from New Jersey, so it's not clear why he picked Loveland as the place to build that castle.
 
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Gonna kinda call this now. Smart 2021 = Ed O 2019.

I think a better comparison could be Smart 2021 = Les Miles 2007.

Smart has more similarities to Les than Ed O:

- Both have solid overall records as SEC head coaches (Smart 66-15 at UGA, Les 114-34 at LSU)

- Both consistently field talented teams that are stout defensively and often offensively challenged

- Both "backed in" to their title win during a down season where there were no great teams

If Smart doesn't win another Natty and just is solid for the rest of his time at UGA, then I'd say that the Les Miles comparison would fit. If he wins more titles, or somehow totally flames out immediately, then it does not apply.
 
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