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70 years old...time for a sex change

Discussion in 'Open Discussion (Work-safe)' started by buckiprof, Feb 28, 2006.

  1. buckiprof

    buckiprof 21st Century Buckeye Man Staff Member

    I heard about this today, didn't believe it at the time, but it appears to be true. I wonder how one can wait until this age to have this procedure done!?! Link

    Debate over transgendered teacher
    It's happening in Eaglewood Township, New Jersey

    WABC
    By Lucy Yang
    (Eaglewood Township, New Jersey-WABC, February 27, 2006) - There is quite a debate in New Jersey over an elementary school teacher.
    Some parents are fighting to have that teacher fired because she recently underwent a sex change operation. It's happening in Eaglewood Township. Eyewitness News Reporter Lucy Yang has the story.

    70-year-old Lily Mc Beth began teaching nine years ago and wants to get in front of the class again.

    Lily: "A good teacher is a good teacher."

    However, it's not that easy for this Ocean County substitute teacher. Until last year, Mc Beth was a man -- William Mc Beth. He underwent a sex change operation and since, the teacher has not been asked back to work.
    On Monday night, she met with the board of education and the community to decide her fate. The community is hotly divided.

    Vincent Mustacchio, parent: "Why then, would she want to take that abnormality and subject that to this age of school children?"

    Mark Schnepp took out a full page ad against her re-instatement.
    "I will not allow you to put my kids in a petrie dish and hope it all turns out fine," Schnepp said.

    However, two students who had Mc Beth as a male teacher believe her teaching skills earned her an invitation back.

    "She's completely confident. I don't see how this is an issue," one student said.

    "When she was he, she was really entertaining," another student added.

    In the end, the board of education did not take a formal vote on Mc Beth until she is currently approved and on the roster as a substitute teacher -- which means she hasn't been called in yet, but she will when her name comes up.

    "I think it was magnificent. You saw diversity in action," Lily said.

    So whether parents want her or not, William Mc Beth can return to school as Lily Mc Beth.

    For those not following the link, here is a picture of Lily (Apologies to Pete and Roger).
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  2. BuckeyeNation27

    BuckeyeNation27 Goal Goal USA! Staff Member

    :slappy: excellent thread title
     
  3. jc_ultimate

    jc_ultimate Jon's Roommate

    Yep let's keep our children in a bubble as long as possible so they can end up as intolerant as you are Mr Moustache. Not surprising that she has the children supporting her, and the parents up in arms. 70 year olds all look the same anyhow so who cares.
     
  4. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    Leave it to you to think that someone who has to resort to physically changing their gender to feel good about themselves is perfectly normal and that everyone else is "intolerant". I suppose trying to keep young kids away from sick fucks like Ms. Pedowrinkles is "keeping them in a bubble". :roll1:
     
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  5. Steve19

    Steve19 Watching. Always watching. Staff Member

    This is not about diversity. It is about more deeply-rooted issues that small children should not have to deal with. Sorry, but not my kids.
     
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  6. StooGrimson

    StooGrimson He drives around, all over the town...

    It doesn't appear that the kids had any problem dealing with the issue. It's not as if the person had a sex change and demanded she maintain her status as a sub in the school. She voluntarily re-interviewed for the same position and was up front about the sex change. If she's a good at her job I see no reason why her new sex should matter.

    On a side note, we had a similar situation happen in our office. A male employee left on vacation and came back as a female. There was a very small number of folks who were uncomfortable around him/her (including two of my friends), but it was pretty amazing how quickly the "issue" went away even for those who considered him/her to be "sick" when they spent a little time with the person in question.
     
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  7. jc_ultimate

    jc_ultimate Jon's Roommate

    Knowing all I know about her, and all I know about you. I would take her to teach my kids.
     
  8. vrbryant

    vrbryant Ever thus to ____ers Staff Member

    I have to say first that people whose psychological state is such that they feel the need to undertake measures as drastic as a surgical sex change are not people with whom I would personally want to 'kick it'. Nevertheless, I don't see how (s)he can be denied employment, so long as (s)he can demonstrate sufficiently that (s)he has no documented or diagnosable mental disorders.
     
  9. FKAGobucks877

    FKAGobucks877 The Most Power-Drunk

    If this thing wants to teach, that's cool, but there is no way in hell that I would put my kid in its class....at least not in elementary school. No fucking way. If you people with the blinders on want to call me out and say that's intolerant, go right ahead. This person chose to have a sex change, and I certainly have the freedom to choose not to allow my kids in its class. Ain't America grand?
     
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  10. Thump

    Thump Hating the environment since 1994

    Agree.
     
  11. StooGrimson

    StooGrimson He drives around, all over the town...

    Eh, it would be crazy to call you intolerant without knowing your motivation. So why are you afraid (not really you, but for your kids) of an old dude who changed into an old broad?
     
  12. Fungo Squiggly

    Fungo Squiggly Mortal enemy of all things Bucky Yahoo Pickem Champ Former Game Champion '18 Keeper League Champ '18 BPCFFB II Champ

    She's quite lovely. :sick1:
     
  13. FKAGobucks877

    FKAGobucks877 The Most Power-Drunk

    Multiple reasons.

    I don't want my kids education to suffer because of this. I wouldn't want the media and public scrutiny to be a constant interruption of their education.

    I don't feel it is necessary to expose an issue like transgenderism and homosexuality when they still aren't old enough to know that babies aren't delivered by storks.

    I don't want my kids to be what basically amounts to an experiment. They are in school for education and learning, both socially and academically. To throw an eight year old a curveball like this is unnecessary and possibly detrimental. Honestly, it may have no effect whatsoever on them, but I don't see any incentive to take the risk - there's no upside whatsoever, and the downside is huge.
     
  14. StooGrimson

    StooGrimson He drives around, all over the town...

    While I don't agree with all of your take, you do bring up a great point (that I hadn't considered) concerning the media and public scrutiny/hysteria. I'm not sure I'd want cameras and demonstrators interfering with my kid's day at school either.
     
  15. BB73

    BB73 Loves Buckeye History Staff Member Bookie '16 & '17 Upset Contest Winner

    That was the only way the old guy could get any pussy.
     

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