A.P. pulls out of BCS next year

Desertbuckfan · Dec 21, 2004

I don't know what the point of the BCS is with the A.P. out of it we'll have split national champs again. The boston globe is reporting that the A.P. is pulling out of the BCS next year.

sandgk · Dec 21, 2004

I don't know what the point of the BCS is with the AP in it.

VprHis · Dec 21, 2004

Are journalists the dumbest... or the whiniest profession in the country?

I know it's far from universal... but what a bunch of dambass crybabies...

The world didn't conform to their wishes, so they'll just go do their own thing.

Oh, how I hate the media

MililaniBuckeye · Dec 21, 2004

Are they even technically tied into the BCS? What if the BCS still decided to use the AP rankings as a factor even if the AP "pulled out"...could the AP sue? Is the AP ranking even copyrighted?

jimotis4heisman · Dec 21, 2004

at the end of every article

Copyright 2004 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

MililaniBuckeye · Dec 21, 2004

Ah yes, but are the polls "articles"?

jimotis4heisman · Dec 21, 2004

i dont know this is what onelooks like per usatoday.com

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my assumption is yes, but "assumptions are the mother of all fuck ups"

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/appoll.htm

while im at it heres a link to the story

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1951112

Tuesday, December 21, 2004

ESPN.com news services
Apparent concern over the Bowl Championship Series process had led The Associated Press to pull its football poll from the BCS system used to select the national title game and the three other BCS bowls, The Boston Globe is reporting.

BCS coordinator Kevin Weiberg, the commissioner of the Big 12, told The Globe he has received a letter from AP indicating it wasn't comfortable being part of the process.

The move would take place starting next season. The BCS is expected to make a statement later Tuesday.

The eight teams selected for the four major bowls -- Orange, Rose, Sugar, and Fiesta -- are picked by the BCS, which uses a combination of the AP poll (voted on by writers and broadcasters), the ESPN/USA Today coaches' poll, and several computer rankings. Each segment receives a one-third weighting in picking the teams.

In the wake of Texas leapfrogging Cal for a BCS bowl bid, the Charlotte Observer announced it no longer will vote in The AP poll.

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BB73 · Dec 21, 2004

Screw the AP poll.

The NCAA can either institute a playoff, go to the Plus-1 model, or stay with the current system. But the NCAA should declare the champion according to how they want it to be determined. The hell with the AP poll - if they want to pull out, make their poll meaningless.

Or about as meaningful as the fact that Illinios is currently #1 in the basketball poll. The basketball poll is worthless as soon as the postseason starts.

I might feel a little different about it if most of those whining AP writers actually knew much about college football.

martinss01 · Dec 21, 2004

BuckeyeBill73 said:
I might feel a little different about it if most of those whining AP writers actually knew much about college football.

college sports writers everywhere in a singluar voice replied, "spoken like a true fan of the crimson and gray!"

:biggrin:

BB73 · Dec 21, 2004

Not quite true.

Several of them said "Garnet & Gray" because they heard it on ESPN.

GoofyBuckeye · Dec 21, 2004

I've always felt the AP poll was a more accurate depiction of college football than the coaches poll. I think the coaches poll is a bunch of crap that should have never been created after the UPI and especially, should have never been made corporate (USA Today). I don't think voting for college football's top teams should be placed on it's own coaches. What the hell do they know besides the teams they see that week or what they read in the paper on Sunday?

As far as the AP's connection to the BCS. I was under the assumption that the AP has no contract whatsoever and allows the BCS to use it's poll as part of it's system but allowing the AP to crown it's own champion...basically, they can pull out at any given time. Anything the AP publishes, including it's weekly pol,l is their property.

iambrutus · Dec 21, 2004

VprHis said:
Are journalists the dumbest... or the whiniest profession in the country?

Yes, even more so if you include Max Whineburgh formally of ESPN now on FoxSports

MililaniBuckeye · Dec 21, 2004

GoofyBuckeye said:
I've always felt the AP poll was a more accurate depiction of college football than the coaches poll. I think the coaches poll is a bunch of crap that should have never been created after the UPI...

I would take the word of a bunch of D I-A coaches over the hyped bias of a bunch of media chimps as to how to rack and stack teams...

GoofyBuckeye · Dec 21, 2004

MililaniBuckeye said:
I would take the word of a bunch of D I-A coaches over the hyped bias of a bunch of media chimps as to how to rack and stack teams...

that makes sense but I don't think there is anyone more bias than the coaches, themselves.

a couple of years ago there was a situation where Chaney of Temple couldn't make the pick himself so he asked an assistant to do it..I can't remember who he chose but the team had like a .200 record or something. It was an embarrasment to everyone.

Bucktastic · Dec 21, 2004

The BCS (Bull Crap System) says it will find a viable alternative.......heres an idea...

PLAYOFF NOW!!!!!!

A.P. pulls out of BCS next year

Desertbuckfan

Sophmore

sandgk

Watson, Crick & A Twist

VprHis

Get off my lawn, you hooligans!

MililaniBuckeye

The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St

jimotis4heisman

Banned

MililaniBuckeye

The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St

jimotis4heisman

Banned

BB73

Loves Buckeye History

martinss01

blissfully stupid

BB73

Loves Buckeye History

GoofyBuckeye

Nutis Maximus

iambrutus

Screw Blue

MililaniBuckeye

The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St

GoofyBuckeye

Nutis Maximus

Bucktastic

Troy Smith for HEISMAN