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Alex Grinch (DB Coach Wisconsin)

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Jaxbuck said:
There are some heavy weight contenders to that crown man. I don't know if I can single out just one.

Warriner, Beck and dildo boy come racing to mind.
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Beck was met with heavy skepticism. Warriner had lukewarm hype coming in since he was only an OL coach and he turned out great as an OL coach. I'm talking about guys who came in with very high expectations and didn't come close to meeting them.
 
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OregonBuckeye said:
I'm talking about guys who came in with very high expectations and didn't come close to meeting them.
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Oh. Ok then. I will always feel comfortable throwing Coopers name in there.

Fans were chanting "COOOP" early in the Syracuse game when he came on board and he had a win over scUM under his belt from his stint at ASU. Expectations are always sky high at OSU and he failed fucking miserably.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
Oh. Ok then. I will always feel comfortable throwing Coopers name in there.

Fans were chanting "COOOP" early in the Syracuse game when he came on board and he had a win over scUM under his belt from his stint at ASU. Expectations are always sky high at OSU and he failed fucking miserably.
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Pretty sad we have to go back 30 years for someone comparable. Grinch looked great on paper. He's like one of those 5 star scUM backs that never amounted to anything and ended up transferring
 
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Not to defend Grinch, because I’m really not a fan, but he was brought in to replace Schiano as the DC when Schiano was on his way out the door to be HC at Tennessee.

When that all went up in smoke and Schiano stuck around, whatever we might have gotten out of Grinch as the DC also disappeared.

It feels like Grinch either didn’t understand or didn’t care to understand and implement Schiano’s scheme and had one foot out the door from the get go.

I will forever feel like he gave up on the team because he was upset about being behind Schiano and not being the DC. For that I will always dislike him, but at the same time it was a less than ideal situation and he certainly wasn’t in a position to show his full potential, which wasn’t entirely his fault - although if he had given it a little more effort I would feel like defending him more strongly on that point.
 
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OregonBuckeye said:
Is Grinch the biggest coaching bust in school history? Almost everyone thought he was a home run when he was hired
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Jaxbuck said:
There are some heavy weight contenders to that crown man. I don't know if I can single out just one.

Warriner, Beck and dildo boy come racing to mind.
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Warriner: 100% agree. He's looking worse in retrospect.

Beck: Not a great coach, not really a contender for the crown. Bill Davis would be a better choice.

Zach Smith: Actually, dildo boy was a good coach and a very good recruiter. Developed great rapport with his players. Came up with the #Zone6 concept, which like "Silver Bullets" will forever be part of the Buckeye lexicon. Obviously, had "off the field" issues. If you want to blame him for Meyer's early retirement, that's somewhat fair, although Meyer's health was always going to be a ticking time bomb - if the Zach Smith fiasco didn't set him off, something else would have done so in a year or two.

To answer the original question: Who is the biggest coaching bust in school history? I'll go with the arch-traitor, Bo Schembechler.

To answer the second part of the question, home runs hires gone wrong. John Cooper is as close as it gets, but he was hardly an absolute bust. Yes, Coop had some very strong deficiencies, but he also modernized the program both on the field and in recruiting.
 
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LordJeffBuck said:
To answer the original question: Who is the biggest coaching bust in school history?
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I don't think you can have this conversation without throwing this dude into the mix...

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Warriner might have been Peter Principled beyond his skillset because of Urban's loyalty, and it is also possible that Zach Smith is telling the truth and he's an asshole.

However, Ed is also a fucking fantastic OL coach. He inherited a room that had been completely fucking nuked after 2011 with the exodus of "Block O," and turned a bunch of 3-star freshmen and a TE playing RT into a national championship caliber unit with two future Remington winners at guard and three first round picks.
 
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LordJeffBuck said:
The Walrus's offense won a National Championship for Ohio State. Just saying....
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Maybe its just me, but I think a more accurate phrasing would be "Jim Bollman ran the offense for a team that won the National Championship for Ohio State."

As LVBuckeye said - that defense won tOSU a National Championship.
 
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