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Another ESPN retard rips into OSU's administration...

Discussion in 'Buckeye Basketball' started by tibor75, Mar 6, 2005.

  1. tibor75

    tibor75 Banned

    Go **** yourself Andy Katz

    If Ohio State's players and coaches really wanted to make a statement Sunday, they should refuse any congratulatory calls or handshakes from retiring athletic director Andy Geiger or school president Karen Holbrook.

    Both took away the Buckeyes' chances at making Sunday's win over previously undefeated Illinois matter into March with a possible NCAA Tournament appearance.

    The Ohio State administration selfishly put this school on a postseason ban in the fall. The Buckeyes will play in the Big Ten tournament, but they have been barred from competing in the NCAA and NIT tournaments.

    The reason?

    Alleged violations under former coach Jim O'Brien, notably, a $6,000 payment to one-time recruit Aleksander Radejovic in 1998. If the NCAA deems this particular allegation to be true -- and O'Brien has said he provided Radejoiv money but claimed it wasn't a violation; rather, he said he made a humanitarian gesture to help Radejoiv's mother during the Serbian war -- the Buckeyes might be placed on probation and facing a postseason ban.

    But we underscore the word might here. The infractions committee hasn't even sunk its teeth into this case. We don't know if it will support a postseason ban.

    The Ohio State administration continues to say that it was proactive in handling this crisis. That's fine. Take away scholarships, or recruiting visits, or give back money earned from NCAA Tournament appearances. But let these players participate in this postseason.

    The NCAA should put a rule in place that forbids universities from banning themselves from the postseason once the academic year starts. What's wrong with a self-imposed penalty at Ohio State for the 2005-06 season? If Geiger and Holbrook are so convinced that the Buckeyes would receive a postseason ban, then why not shield the program until the 2005-06 season? By doing that they would have allowed this team, which had already started its school year and practice, to achieve its own goals.

    If such decisions are made before the fall semester, then seniors would be allowed to leave and finish their careers by playing in the postseason. These Buckeyes had nothing to do with the alleged violations under O'Brien. They should have been given the opportunity to play in late March.

    Ohio State would have entered the Big Ten tournament as a bubble team. The Buckeyes are 19-11 overall and 8-8 in the Big Ten, with the nation's only win over Illinois. The Buckeyes did not have outstanding non-conference results under first-year coach Thad Matta; they beat Saint Joseph's when the Hawks weren't playing well, beat Houston in Kansas City in the Guardians Classic, and defeated Texas Tech in Dallas, but they lost at LSU and Clemson.

    It's not a great résumé, but with a .500 Big Ten record and an upset of Illinois, Ohio State certainly would be a part of any bubble conversation.

    But that's not what matters most. The Buckeyes should have been given the chance to play. This selfish act by their administration might come back to bite it if the NCAA infractions committee decides that a postseason ban is not justified. If that happens, this would end up being one of the more egregious acts by an administration on its players in recent memory.

    We won't know the outcome for perhaps a year. Ohio State's players and staff deserve plenty of credit for staying upbeat, working hard and producing a monster win in their final regular-season game.

    Andy Katz is a senior writer for
    Last edited by a moderator: Mar 10, 2005
  2. osugrad21

    osugrad21 Capo Regime Staff Member

    Damned if ya do...Damned if ya don't

    ESPN should just come in and run the University
    MililaniBuckeye likes this.
  3. funny thing is, this article isnt new. katz didnt even bother to write a new one just edited a bit added they beat ill and pumped it out. you would think fox has gotta realize the oppurtunity they have (look at what they did with foxnews)
  4. Steve19

    Steve19 Watching. Always watching. Staff Member


    All these guys want is to generate interest and conversation. Yeah, right, take away scholarships etc. Sure, penalise Matta and the team for years to come to give these "professional investigative sports journalists" something to bring up again and again. Right.

    Let's be honest. These guys played well over their heads last night with a heart that made us all proud of them. But, I don't think Vegas will be giving them much of a chance to lift the Big Ten tourney crown. I am just hoping they get their 20 wins. Last night was their tournament. We are all so proud of these guys. Given no chance all year and look what they do! Real Buckeyes!

    And would the #6 team in the Big Ten get into the Dance on the basis of last night anyway? I don't know, but I support the notion of getting through this stuff now and getting it behind us. I also think that

    ESPiN is angry because all of their allegations about a meaningless gesture ring about as hollow as their credibility on everything else! Last night, more than anything else this team could have done, made ESPiN look about as knowledgeable as Mr Magoo!
  5. Misanthrope

    Misanthrope Banned

    If we did NOT put the program on probation, and made a miraculous run to the title, only to have the NCAA recommend probation later, this tool would've called OSU "selfish" for taking a spot in the tourney, and winning a title even though they knew their program needed to be punished for past transgressions.

    Wouldn't you just love to see ESPN's reaction if Holbrook announced today that we're taking ourselves OFF probation?
  6. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    Exactly. Well said.
  7. gost8

    gost8 Living and loving life

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    You cannot give Reputation to the same post twice.

    Sad how ESPN is that predictable these days.
  8. tsteele316

    tsteele316 Mr. Such and Such

    two points on this article:

    1. the self-imposed ban is more for pre-emptive action pending the Salyers lawsuit than the OB cash. I'm willing to bet that if the cash gift was the only thing wrong, then osu would have let the NCAA look and recommend a punishment, which may have been a loss of a 'ship for a few years and OB's getting canned.

    2. At 19-11 in a weak big ten overall, with an RPI in the 60's usually doesnt equate out to an NCAA tourney birth. They are a bubble team at best. It would take a run in he big ten tourney for them to get a legit shot. a loss to psu in round 1 would kill any ncaa hopes.
  9. OSUBasketballJunkie

    OSUBasketballJunkie Never Forget 31-0

    Everyone has an opinion, wether its right or wrong this is tOSU felt was appropriate and other universities have done the same in the past. Its tough to punish the current players for misdeeds by past players but that is the norm in college sports....:(
  10. BuckeyeNation27

    BuckeyeNation27 Goal Goal USA! Staff Member

    now i know rutgers beat ND (:lol: NDC) but come on....this just wont happen.

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