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anybody else tired of "legal" big hits

Discussion in 'Professional Football' started by nwbuckeye, Dec 14, 2004.

  1. nwbuckeye

    nwbuckeye Newbie

    i dont know about you but i for one am sick and tired of seeing big hits in the pros aimed at guys neck/head area. whatever happened to just tackling the guy or heaven forbid knocking the ball down before it reaches the receiver. couple of recent "legal" hits come to mind is the one on springs and sapps blow-up of the green bay lineman year or two ago. both of these were blind side hits targeting the head/neck area and either one of them could of been accomplished with just knocking the guy down; not trying to take his head off. while i still appreciate seeing aj or anybody else planting somebody from scum into the turf, i hate to see cheap shots aimed at guys heads just because they can get away with it. i remember playing ball and the object was to stop the other team with clean tackles and not allowing them to catch the ball; not letting them catch the ball and then trying to separate head from shoulders. guess i am just old fashioned and also remember guys handing the ball to the ref after a td and not celebrating like a buch of low class clowns that most of the nfl has degraded into. what says you
  2. Buckeyeskickbuttocks

    Buckeyeskickbuttocks Z --> Z^2 + c Staff Member

    "Cheap shots aimed at the head" aren't "big legal hits, dinkus.

    Don't be such a pussy. If roided up freaks of nature hitting eachother hard makes you squimish, take up knitting or something.
  3. IronBuckI

    IronBuckI Calmer than you are.

    I'm tired of big misses. Guys are convinced, and they're right, that big hits will get them noticed. I've seen this alot out of our own tOSU defensive players. Look for the big hit, rather than wrapping up. A big part of our missed tackles problem this year was due to guys trying to blow somebody up, instead of wrapping them up. Just like your "legal" hit issue. If guys would do their jobs, instead of trying to make a high light reel, they would be more effective, and their bodies probably wouldn't take such a beating. Making their careers longer.

    edit:blindsided by bkb's dinkus remark.:box:
  4. AJHawkfan

    AJHawkfan Wanna make $14 the hard way?

    A big part of football is mental and so is hitting. I didn't see the hit on Springs, but I did see Sapp's hit, and really don't have issue with it. (The injury he suffered was a broken hip, if I recall correctly.)

    If a receiver knows he can go across the middle without getting hit, it's going to be a lot easier for the offense to move the ball. On the other hand, if he knows he's going to get laid out, he might be a little more heistant to extend himself to make a tough catch, and that gives the defense a huge advantage.

    Now, about the ridiculous dancing that seems to accompany every play anymore, that is truly ridiculous. It started out in '80's with the TD celebrations, and spread to every position. Don't get me wrong, it's one thing to be pumped up and celebrate a good play, but tackling a runner 8 yards down field is not a good play; there's no reason to jump up and dance because of it. Just shut up and do your job.
  5. Buckeyeskickbuttocks

    Buckeyeskickbuttocks Z --> Z^2 + c Staff Member

    I will admit the dancing after a 1st down catch or other such shit is one of the few complaints I have with the NFL. If I wanted to watch dancing, I'd start sucking dick.
  6. BuckeyeNation27

    BuckeyeNation27 Goal Goal USA! Staff Member

    i think the original post was talking about the cheap hits like when ray lewis clocked that guy on the FG miss/return for a touchdown. obviously he mentioned the hit warren sapp laid on the guy who wasnt even involved in the play just so he can look like a tough guy. i wish somebody would do the same to them.

    It's equivalent to being in a fight. sure you are going to get punched. thats the nature of a fight. but its pretty lame to sucker punch somebody from behind while they werent expecting it.

    This happens to punters and kickers all the time. they are legal men on the field that can be blocked....but just because its a kicker or a punter doesnt mean you need to take his head off while he isnt even involved in the play.
  7. OH10

    OH10 *

    there was a play in the Steelers-Browns game this year where Big Ben through an INT and Kenard Lang just went over an grabbed BB's shoulder pads in case he was thinking about making the tackle - that's what should happen. Just make sure they can't make the tackle - no need to knock them out.
  8. AJHawkfan

    AJHawkfan Wanna make $14 the hard way?

    "that's what should happen"

    Agreed 100%. That was a great piece of sportsmanship from Lang. It's funny you mention the Steelers-Browns, because before their next meeting Gerard Warren gave his "knock his head off" speech to the press. I was worried about a Steelers let-down, until I heard that moron.
  9. Alan

    Alan Banned

    nfl celebrations are all espn's are the poor fundamentals and horrible shooting in the nba.....and the obsession with the home run in mlb.....
  10. nwbuckeye

    nwbuckeye Newbie

    what kind of dumbass response is that. what i said was big hits that are aimed at the head/shoulder area with the intent to injure the other player, not clean hits the way football is meant to be played. obviously you must have taken one of these hits yourself in the past. any coward can blindside somebody in the course of the game and the announcers will call it a legal hit because they didnt do anything to warrant a penalty. i am just sick of those hits being aimed at a spot that can knock somebody out or worse when just knocking em down would serve the same purpose. as others have pointed out whats wrong with old style football where tackling is actually an artform vs the hotdog clown shit that we are subject to every sunday and increasingly on saturdays now as well
  11. buckeyefool

    buckeyefool He's back and better than ever!

    If thats the case than Land should have been flagged for holding:wink2:
  12. sandgk

    sandgk Watson, Crick & A Twist

    Good hitting in NFL games does not distress me. If its a cheap shot then its up the refs to throw the flag.
    Outside of the attention seeking jigs of some players there is one thing that riles me...

    Denver's line getting a free pass on chop blocks. That to my mind is much worse because it is institutionalized by Denver's brain trust.
  13. Buckeyeskickbuttocks

    Buckeyeskickbuttocks Z --> Z^2 + c Staff Member

    Woa, woa, wao.. take it easy, there, cachi. Don't get your panties all in a bunch. As I said, in my first post to you - head shots aren't legal. So, your premise that enough is enough for these head shot big "legal" hits is inherently faulty. Who's the dumbass now, sport?

    As for being cheap-shotted, if I may make up the word, don't you think that you presume a bit much based on a handful of words posted on a page here in cyberspace? Maybe tone down the big grand conclusions. Just a word of advice, take it or leave it.

    The following comment is wholly absurd: "any coward can blindside somebody in the course of the game and the announcers will call it a legal hit because they didnt do anything to warrant a penalty." So, you come on a blitz, QB is looking the other way, you do what? Pull up because if you hit the QB blindside Nwbuck will think you a coward? Son, that's not the football I want to watch. I say you blow up the QB when you have the chance. Don't want to get hit like that? Watch your blind side or chew out your O-line. I'll leave you "Announcers will call it leagal because they didn't do anything to warrant a penalty" alone as saying more than just that would be construed as me piling on.

    Think before you post. It's all I ask.

    By the way, I already agreed that the showboating I could do without.
  14. vrbryant

    vrbryant Ever thus to ____ers Staff Member

    Where does Donovan Darius' clothesline on Robert Ferguson register in this debate? Think Darius deserves fine/suspension?
  15. scooter1369

    scooter1369 HTTR Forever.

    That was a nasty clothesline. I read that Ferguson got feeling back in his legs in the ambulance. As for Darius, the tackle was clearly what the rules are trying to prevent. He will be fined at a minimum and possibly face a two game suspension.

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