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Apple iPad, Android, other tablet displays

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OCBucksFan;1651972; said:
Are you ok with this idea?
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Sure. This isn't for heavy lifting, it's for surfing the Web from my recliner -- something that I'm not going to do with my laptop (because it's too big) or my iPhone (I may surf and read, but I'm not going to try following a game thread and typing more than two sentences per post on it).

The iPad is a portable extension of a desktop computer, it's not a replacement for one. I don't envision myself taking the iPad more than 100 feet from my main desktop. I have no intention of using an iPad at work, or for work. Sure, I can run SSH on it and get into my work computers if necessary (I already paid for iSSH on my iPhone and that'll move over), but I'm not going to be managing my office docs with it, so it doesn't need the capability.

Steve Jobs demoed it perfectly. It's for sitting in the lay-z-boy and wasting time in style. You can carry it to the kitchen, the bedroom, the bathroom, or out on the deck and not skip a beat, whether it's surfing the Web or reading an eBook. It doesn't need to do anything else.
 
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Dryden;1652319; said:
Sure. This isn't for heavy lifting, it's for surfing the Web from my recliner -- something that I'm not going to do with my laptop (because it's too big) or my iPhone (I may surf and read, but I'm not going to try following a game thread and typing more than two sentences per post on it).

The iPad is a portable extension of a desktop computer, it's not a replacement for one. I don't envision myself taking the iPad more than 100 feet from my main desktop. I have no intention of using an iPad at work, or for work. Sure, I can run SSH on it and get into my work computers if necessary (I already paid for iSSH on my iPhone and that'll move over), but I'm not going to be managing my office docs with it, so it doesn't need the capability.

Steve Jobs demoed it perfectly. It's for sitting in the lay-z-boy and wasting time in style. You can carry it to the kitchen, the bedroom, the bathroom, or out on the deck and not skip a beat, whether it's surfing the Web or reading an eBook. It doesn't need to do anything else.
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To each their own I guess, personally, I will stick with my laptop, if I am in the living room watching tv and need to look at the web then I'll either grab it or get up and go to my room. Then again, I use an ergo keyboard, so even my regular laptop kb is a little awkward for me.
 
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scott91575;1652488; said:
No flash = FAIL

It pisses me off on my iPhone, but would drive me crazy on something that I would use regularly to surf the web.
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Pisses me off with my Android as well, but since Flash is supposed to be available by the end of next few months for Android 2.0 I won't be surprised if it hits the iphone/ipad at the same time, if not sooner. Stevie is already whining about Adobe not having bent over backwards and supported apple sooner.

Google’s ‘Don’t Be Evil’ Mantra is ‘Bullshit,’ Adobe Is Lazy: Apple’s Steve Jobs (Update 2) | Epicenter | Wired.com

In one month Apple has partnered with Microsoft, attacked Google and now Adobe, this should be fun to watch.
 
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A few of the more amusing farks I have seen, and they aren't even tampon jokes :p

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scott91575 said:
It's not Adobe supporting Apple. It's the other way around. Apple does not support flash. They easily could have supported flash in the iphone OS. Instead they force Adobe to change things around to support them and claims flash is "too buggy." Bullcrap. People want it, and it's all over the internet. Hell, I can't remember the last time flash caused a crash (I can't remember the last time my computer crashed). Instead Apple for 3 years have continued the company line to force Adobe to do what they want instead of tweaking their OS, and when Adobe doesn't bow down to the almighty Jobs he bashes them. When you have an OS that has a market share as tiny as the iPhone OS you do not demand programs on the internet change things around to fit you. You make your OS work with it.

It's typical Apple. Honestly, this is starting to feel like the Apple of 80's all over again.
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Except that, unlike the mismanaged Apple of the mid-to-late 80s that John Sculley drove into the ground, Apple makes tech products that the general non-tech-savvy population desparately wants now, much like they did in their heyday before 1985. Even in their 15 years of irrelevance they at least were able to define the modern spec of the laptop in 1991 with the first PowerBook, whose design/layout has been copied in every single laptop manufactured for 20 years.

The lack of Flash support is a complete non-factor. Maybe .1% of Web sites out there that use Flash use it effectively, such as YouTube and ESPN, who have the full capability with the iPhone SDK to produce their own apps where they can put their dynamic content and embed video if they so choose.

In over a year of owning an iPhone, and having used Linux as far back as 1996 on my personal desktop (and Flash on Linux really didn't work right until around 2002-2003), I can't say I've ever visited a single Web site where I was bummed Flash didn't work. It's much ado about nothing. It's just another excuse by Apple-haters to rationalize not buying an Apple product they wouldn't buy anyway even if it did have Flash.

Lots of mobile devices don't support Flash. Nobody has said diddly about those for 10 years.
 
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I can't say I've ever visited a single Web site where I was bummed Flash didn't work.
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I'd submit that's a pretty unusual opinion, whether it's websites built around a flash interface or simply the ability to watch embedded videos or play flash games.

Is it crippling? No, but it's certainly a limitation, particularly since the majority of web video is published using flash.
It's just another excuse by Apple-haters to rationalize not buying an Apple product they wouldn't buy anyway even if it did have Flash.
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That might make pass the smell test if Android junkies weren't crying out for flash too.
Lots of mobile devices don't support Flash. Nobody has said diddly about those for 10 years.
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98% of the American populace didn't have data plans until the last few years. I fail to see how the palm pilot 7 years ago (with its fold out antenna) or very limited Windows mobile devices have any relevance to discussions about web browsing needs today.
 
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Dryden;1652885; said:
Except that, unlike the mismanaged Apple of the mid-to-late 80s that John Sculley drove into the ground, Apple makes tech products that the general non-tech-savvy population desparately wants now, much like they did in their heyday before 1985. Even in their 15 years of irrelevance they at least were able to define the modern spec of the laptop in 1991 with the first PowerBook, whose design/layout has been copied in every single laptop manufactured for 20 years.

The lack of Flash support is a complete non-factor. Maybe .1% of Web sites out there that use Flash use it effectively, such as YouTube and ESPN, who have the full capability with the iPhone SDK to produce their own apps where they can put their dynamic content and embed video if they so choose.

In over a year of owning an iPhone, and having used Linux as far back as 1996 on my personal desktop (and Flash on Linux really didn't work right until around 2002-2003), I can't say I've ever visited a single Web site where I was bummed Flash didn't work. It's much ado about nothing. It's just another excuse by Apple-haters to rationalize not buying an Apple product they wouldn't buy anyway even if it did have Flash.

Lots of mobile devices don't support Flash. Nobody has said diddly about those for 10 years.
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Bleh, I don't know why I am getting in on this, but I will toss in my two cents. The reality of all this is that everyone knows the biggest POS on the web is flash, the fact that so many designers cripple their sites with it just irritates teh crap out of me. The wife runs Ubuntu, and as long as she doesn't hit a flash site, her computer runs fine, as soon as she hits a flash site the fan whirls up and the thing sounds like it's about to take off to 20,000 feet.

Adobe should be spending time getting the memory leaks in that thing fixed as well, I would love to see that, at least then we could figure which is poorly coded garbage, Firefox or Flash.

As for Mobile devices, honestly, when I got the droid it was called "Flash 10 compatible" now rumors fly around that the Droid with it's 550MHZ processor might not be fast enough to effectively run the program and are now looking at the 1GHZ snapdragon processor in the NexusOne, and that leaves google just as irritated as Apple is. Which I think has a lot to do with Googles decision to show us all HTML5 versions of YouTube, hopefully this will either light a fire under someones ass to get Flash working correctly on all devices or just let it go away.

I am, actually, in agreement with Apple on this one. Apple made Adobe huge back in the day, and Adobe saved Apple in some tough times, but, while their heavy duty products are good (Photoshop, Illustrator, Premiere), they seem to care less about their general consumer products.

With OS's like Chromium, the iPhone OS, and Android, one thing is becoming more obvious to me, the general population is tired of having their computer outdated every 3-5 years, and they want something that just runs. More and more companies are looking towards the web and server side loads as a solution for this, and these little tablet PC's are going to be the big push for this.

I think I just agreed with Dryden, now if you'll excuse me I am going to go run my head over with my car.

On a different note, Penny Arcade fucking cracks me up, here's there comic a week before the announcement of the iPad:

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And the comic the day after it was announced:

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OCBucksFan;1653701; said:
Concept for the Chrome OS tablet from the chromium project site. Not much so far, but it's interesting.
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Hope that's not to scale. I'm watching it holding my own hands up to my 22" flat panel and thinking either that's a 30" tablet or it's rendered for the guy with the tiny hands from the Burger King commercials.
 
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