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B1G Coaches

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Greyshirt said:
I was looking for something else and came across this gem.

Does anyone still think Hairball is the second best HC in the B10?

I can never get him over 4th.

Urban
Dantonio
Franklin

After that no one has done much. You do realize that it has been 5000 days since SCum has won a B10 title. He has poached someone else QB so lets see if he can do something this year.
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Paul Chryst ranks above him IMO
 
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My take today...
- Urban is an excellent recruiter, good gameday, and excellent at finding good assistants to develop the talent.
- Dantonio is a mediocre recruiter, great gameday, great at developing talent.
- Franklin is a very good recruiter, mediocre gameday.
- Chryst is mediocre recruiter, good gameday, great at developing talent.
- Ferentz has had a revival... a poor man's Dantonio
- Fitzgerad has aso had a bit of a revival... it's hard to recruit there for several reasons but seems he develops his guys every 3-4 years.
- Harbaugh is an awful recruiter, good gameday, mediocre at developing talent.


Scott Frost? I could see him being better than Harbaugh too. We'll find out.

Harbaugh has to be somewhere on Lovie Smith's level... NFL dropout, can't recruit, struggling at a basketball school.

Can PJ Fleck challenge for position? I kinda doubt it; but I have to take coaching at places like Minnesota and Northwestern with a grain of salt... it's a lot harder to be successful there than a program that gets preseason Top25 rankings rubber stamped every season for no reason at all.
 
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kujirakira said:
My take today...
- Urban is an excellent recruiter, good gameday, and excellent at finding good assistants to develop the talent.
- Dantonio is a mediocre recruiter, great gameday, great at developing talent.
- Franklin is a very good recruiter, mediocre gameday.
- Chryst is mediocre recruiter, good gameday, great at developing talent.
- Ferentz has had a revival... a poor man's Dantonio
- Fitzgerad has aso had a bit of a revival... it's hard to recruit there for several reasons but seems he develops his guys every 3-4 years.
- Harbaugh is an awful recruiter, good gameday, mediocre at developing talent.


Scott Frost? I could see him being better than Harbaugh too. We'll find out.

Harbaugh has to be somewhere on Lovie Smith's level... NFL dropout, can't recruit, struggling at a basketball school.

Can PJ Fleck challenge for position? I kinda doubt it; but I have to take coaching at places like Minnesota and Northwestern with a grain of salt... it's a lot harder to be successful there than a program that gets preseason Top25 rankings rubber stamped every season for no reason at all.
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I'd bump Chryst up to excellent gameday and am baffled at Harbaugh being considered good gameday (not just because of my general disdain). Don Brown is a good gameday coach, fucktwinkle's offense and sideline meltdowns are pretty far from beneficial to the tsun cause.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
I'd bump Chryst up to excellent gameday and am baffled at Harbaugh being considered good gameday (not just because of my general disdain). Don Brown is a good gameday coach, fucktwinkle's offense and sideline meltdowns are pretty far from beneficial to the tsun cause.
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Chryst has a formula he's inherited from 2 decades of Wiscy coaches... it's a good formula, but I just don't see him able to improvise much.
Harbaugh has given us gameday issues since showing up. In my imo, he gets his chess pieces to perform a little better than they are. Of course it's also his fault he can't recruit better athletes, nor scout and develop 3 star guys into pros like Dantonio/Chryst/Ferentz do. He's poison to QBs... O'Korn and Speight were never very good but that Amazon special made it pretty clear Harbaugh managed to make them even worse.

*And they can't blame Hoke anymore -- if they ever honestly could.
 
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kujirakira said:
Chryst has a formula he's inherited from 2 decades of Wiscy coaches... it's a good formula, but I just don't see him able to improvise much.
Harbaugh has given us gameday issues since showing up. In my imo, he gets his chess pieces to perform a little better than they are. Of course it's also his fault he can't recruit better athletes, nor scout and develop 3 star guys into pros like Dantonio/Chryst/Ferentz do. He's poison to QBs... O'Korn and Speight were never very good but that Amazon special made it pretty clear Harbaugh managed to make them even worse.

*And they can't blame Hoke anymore -- if they ever honestly could.
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I thought Chryst's gameplan and adjustments in 2016 were exceptional, I don't think that has anything to do with the Wisky program machine that he keeps rolling.

Rainman's meltdown in '16 went a long way in costing scUm The Game. You can't be that emotionally unstable and be considered a good gameday coach imo.
 
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