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BCS problems

Discussion in 'Buckeye Football' started by JXC, Nov 22, 2004.

  1. JXC

    JXC 17-3 since 2001

    I personally am very anti-BCS. And it looks like their is a scenario developing which could really make the BCS fall apart. If Texas loses to Texas A&M it looks like both Utah and Boise State would be in the top 6 in the BCS. Any non-BCS school that gets in the top 6 gets an automatic BCS birth...meaning both Utah and Boise State would get BCS Bowls. The other 6 bids would go to the 6 winners of the 6 BCS conferences (likely USC, Oklahoma, Auburn, scUM, Miami, and Boston College) This leaves Cal out of the BCS mix. Even if Texas wins...Cal or Texas would have to be forced out.

    I think a BCS with Miami, Boston College, Utah, and Boise State would really lead to poor rating, poor ticket sales, and poor games. Plus...we could be headed to another split championship...which would be fine for me, because then Ohio State would remain the last team to win an consensus National Championship.
  2. AnnArborBuck

    AnnArborBuck Newbie

    The scariest thing is BC gets an automatic bid. No way the Big least should have an automatic bid now. If they wouldn't have taken SOS out of the system then I doubt this would happen. What a stupid move on part of the BCS this past year. Its almost as if they wanted their system to fail.
  3. buckeyebri

    buckeyebri 40 Days in the Hole

    I think it is just the opposite and that they want at least one team from a non BCS conference to get in. This in turn would help eliminate the thought that the BCS is elitist and the cry for a playoff scenario.

    That being said, I wonder how they will get FSU and Miami into BCS games...
  4. LloydSev

    LloydSev DreamWeaver

    Regardless of SOS, a Big East member would still be in a BCS bowl.. it's required as conference champs. The only thing that SOS helped was your rank in the BCS... had nothing to do with whether or not you win your conference.
  5. AnnArborBuck

    AnnArborBuck Newbie

    Yeah, I know that. I guess I should have started a new paragraph with my new thought on Utah and Boise State. I mean after all, if you are going to be one the top teams in the country and thus in the BCS, shouldn't you have to play and beat somebody with a pulse.

    The fact that the Big Least gets an automatic bid is just hillarious. Right now the MAC is a better conference then the Big Least.
  6. BrutusMaximus

    BrutusMaximus I Heart Boobs

    Beside the Utah, BSU, BC thing, I think it's a total shame that Auburn is probably going to get shut out of a chance for the NC. Personally I think they are the best team in the country. They place such a harder schedule than USC and Okie. Granted, both those teams may be the best team in the country, but it's just a shame that there isnt a real way to find out.
  7. Nate

    Nate I am Nate and I approved this message.

    I don't have to many problems with the BCS except how much weight the polls play into the equation. I personally believe that SOS and quality wins should have more weight than what the "ever knowing media pollsters" say.

    With FoxSports gaining 4 BCS bowls starting in 07, one of them being a stand alone championship game, is that championship going to be the new setup as a minor playoff system? It looks that way but I haven't read anything concrete about it.
  8. JXC

    JXC 17-3 since 2001

    I do think it is unfair that Auburn might get let out. I think though...that if both the AP poll and the Coach's poll have the same teams as #1 and #2...then we shouldn't even use computers to figure out the championship. I think the computer should only come in when there is a difference between the two polls. USC deserves it...hands down. They got the shaft last way they get the shaft again this year. Oklahoma and Auburn...well Oklahoma got into the game last year and shouldn't I'd have to say that if it were'd have to give Auburn a shot. Plus...look what the SEC did to the Big 12 last year. I think LSU last year proved that the SEC was really that good. Eventually there will need to be some sort of playoff. The only thing I have against it is because the bowls used to mean so much...but now there are so many new ones and crappy ones that they really don't mean that much either. I guess if we had a playoff system I would just be sore because the Big 10 #1 would likely never play in the Rose Bowl again...unless of course they could come up with a way where the BCS was a playoff system...and the Pac 10 and Big 10 champs always played in the first round of the playoffs in the Rose Bowl. That would be cool.
  9. BuckeyeNation27

    BuckeyeNation27 Goal Goal USA! Staff Member

    so youre pretty much saying that last year has more bearing on where they should be ranked than this year? who gives a shit if USC got screwed or if OU got there and shouldnt have. that was last year.

    this year USC is only up there because they started higher han Auburn.
  10. FKAGobucks877

    FKAGobucks877 The Most Power-Drunk

    This entire BCS system is shit. Anyone who says otherwise needs to re-evaluate how it works. In certain circumstances, it is effective enough to pit the consensus #1 and #2 against each other. The problem is, there are a myriad of circumstances for which the BCS just isn't equipped. If anyone here actually thinks that USC, Utah, Boise State, and probably BC all deserve to play in BCS bowl games, I would accuse you of stealing my paintchips.

    Seriously, who has Oklahoma played? Texas? Ok, their schedule is decent. But who has USC played? Cal? Why is Cal good, because they beat everyone else in the Pac 10? The Pac 10 sucks. Utah? Boston College? Boise State? Are you serious? If any team deserves to play in the NC game, it's Auburn (provided they beat UT again). To escape the SEC unscathed this year is amazing. Oklahomo and USC deserve shit, their conferences suck. For crying out loud, Oklahoma is going to be playing their conference championship game against a 7-4 team. This BCS system is going to be useless again this year.
  11. Sdgobucks

    Sdgobucks Pig on a wing

    I think this would be a great Idea. Big ten champ plays Pac 10 champ in the rose bowl, Big 12 champ vs Sec champ in Sugar Bowl??? ACC champ vs big east champ in Orange Bowl. Two at large bids in the fiesta bowl (Two highest ranked teams in non BCS conferences). Play these four games, then play two more, then have a championship game. The only problem with this would be with the big 10 Pac 10 or big least, if two teams from a conference don't play eachother and they go undefeated. I think that these conferences would need a provision to have a championship game, BUT ONLY IF NEEDED. If OSU and scum both have 1 big ten loss, but we beat scum, then guess what we won the conference, no need for a championship game, but if we don't play Wisconsin, and we both go undefeated, then we need to settle it on the field, no "whoever hasn't been in the logest time gets the bid" bull shit. If you don't win your conference then you don't get to play for the title. This would still give the regular season a lot of meaning, because you would have to win your conference to play for the title, and that means going undefeated to be sure you get in. If the presidents bitch about the season taking to long then eliminate all these other bullshit bowls and move the "BCS" bowls up 2 weeks (week before Christmas). Yeah the rose bowl would be played on a day that it isn't always played on, but we would have a true champion every year. If you win your conference you get a shot. What more can you ask?
  12. powerlifter

    powerlifter ▪█───────█

    I don't know if I'm the only person that feels this way or not. I've seen everyone riding USC's jock all year and they have beaten no quality opponents. People talk about how great cal is. Who have they beat? How do we know these teams are even worthy? How can people complain about the big east and not the pac 10. I'm sorry but the quality of teams in the pac 10 is totally suspect. I could careless if god himself is the starting qb for cal or usc until they schedule some powerhouse non conference games they have proven nothing to me. I'm not saying USC isn't the best team in the nation. I'm saying there is no way you can tell who is who until they collide. It's a hell of a lot easier winning games in the crap 10 then it is big ten or sec.

    If Auburn gets kept out of the national champ game then its a travesty.

    The BCS is a mess...Always will be a mess.
  13. Buckeye513

    Buckeye513 Stable Genius

    What else is new? :roll2:
    I'm all for the 4+1 theory.
  14. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    16-team playoff.
  15. sandgk

    sandgk Watson, Crick & A Twist

    The Perfect Storm BCS Style

    There is still time for the cat to get amongst the pigeons.
    Late losses hurt a programs ratings.

    What would make the Perfect Storm as the last few games play out? One that suits Auburn to a tee. 'Course Auburn must still get over Tennessee in the SEC title game.

    USC loses to Notre Dame (Yeah -like that'll Happen this year - though ND can sometimes rise to the level of their opponent, I just think the climb this time is too high) OR
    USC loses to UCLA (well it is an in-state X-town rivalry)

    Oklahoma Loses to what Iowa State in the B12 Title Game (Unlikely this will happen - though stranger outcomes permeate the brief history of the Big 12 Title Game)

    CAL loses to Southern Miss (not a hope in hell its a re-scheduled powder puff work-out from early in the season -- but this is a perfect storm I'm thinking of) AND

    Texas drops the ball against the Aggies on the 26th - boy that would be fun -- 2 big time egg-in-your face losses for the Longhorns -- would Mack Brown really survive even that.

    Mmm. Whom Would that then leave Auburn facing? An X-1 team or Urban Meyer's boys.

    Change it so CAL wins at Southern Miss (it really is the longest stretch of nay of the above upsets). Then you are left with

    Oklahoma with one LATE loss
    USC with at least one LATE loss
    Texas LATE second loss is merely because it would please me and has no impact.
    Depending on the drop USC and Oklahoma would take --

    It could definitely set up CAL vs Auburn

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