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Best 2nd baseman in the National League.

Discussion in 'Open Discussion (Work-safe)' started by daddyphatsacs, Apr 26, 2004.

  1. daddyphatsacs

    daddyphatsacs Let the cards fall...

    Just wondering who some think is a good two-bagger in baseball? My nomination goes for Marcus Giles. The guy is gritty, and hits the ball well. I am a big Atlanta fan and I think that he is the most valuable player on that squad this season. I'm sure that some of you are going to dispute my thoughts, what do you all think.

    Just feel like talking a little baseball....what the hell.
  2. jlb1705

    jlb1705 hipster doofus Bookie

    No argument here. Looking at his stats this year and last, he's been the best hitting 2B in the NL by a pretty fair margin.
  3. daddyphatsacs

    daddyphatsacs Let the cards fall...

    Well hell, lets take it one step 2 bagger in baseball to this point?
  4. jlb1705

    jlb1705 hipster doofus Bookie

    In that case, I'd go with Bret Boone, but it's almost a wash between those two.
  5. sears3820

    sears3820 Sitting around in my underwear....

    National League: Jeff Kent

    Major League Baseball: Bret Boone

    Alfonso Soriano deserves some mention and would be the best 2B in MLB if not for his porous defense.
  6. BuckNutty

    BuckNutty Hear The Drummer Get Wicked Staff Member Bookie

    Sears, you took the words right out of my mouth. Agree on both picks and when Soriano is hot there is no second baseman better at the plate.
  7. RAMdrvr1

    RAMdrvr1 All Galaxy '14 NCAA Pick'em Champ

    Soriano is not a 2nd baseman. He's a converted SS who has never been able to make the adjustment.
  8. sears3820

    sears3820 Sitting around in my underwear....

    Yes but sure as shit he's played 2B almost exclusively his entire career.

    He deserves mention with the other 2B no matter what position he started out playing.

    The adjustment from 2B to SS isn't a drastic switch which leads me to believe Soriano's defense at SS wasn't all that great in the first place.
    Last edited: Apr 27, 2004
  9. ashlandbuck

    ashlandbuck Banned


    What a brilliant statement. The guy has played 2nd since entering the majors.
    I guess Babe Ruth shouldn't really have been considered an outfielder. He was after all, a converted pitcher. Ghheezz.
  10. Buckeyehead

    Buckeyehead Banned

    No one mentioned the guy who played 2B for the Rangers before Soriano arrived, but now moved to SS: Michael Young.

    His numbers are comparable to Marcus Giles (and he's still eligible at 2B on my fantasy team). :biggrin:
  11. KillerNut

    KillerNut Banned

    I would rate it this way:

    Alphonso Soriano: 5 tool second baseman, strikes out too much.

    Kent, Power at second base, Very good defensively. Bad teammate

    L. Castillo, Average, Speed, traditional star 2nd Baseman, give up power

    Boone, older version of Kent, Less average, less power, equal defense, Not as good as he once was

    Marcus Giles, Up and coming, not there yet

    I could go on if you want
  12. RAMdrvr1

    RAMdrvr1 All Galaxy '14 NCAA Pick'em Champ

    And just how long do you think that has been? My post implied ( and if you weren't such a smart@ss you would have understood that) that he is unable to pick up the difference between SS and 2nd base. Only offensively can you put him in the same class as Kent, Vidro, Boone, and the other elite 2nd baseman. And the worst thing about it is that he had a chance to go back to SS with Texas, and because he was pouting about leaving the Yankees, he turned it down. That sure puts him in the same class as the "real" 2nd basemen.

    And as far as your stupid Babe Ruth statement, if he wasn't a better outfielder than pitcher, see if your IQ-like-a-rock can figure out why he didn't still pitch every 4th day(or whatever the rotation was then)! He went to a position that he was better at, opposed to Soriano going to one where he wasn't as good.
  13. BuckeyeNation27

    BuckeyeNation27 Goal Goal USA! Staff Member

    cant we discredit marcus giles because he is cross eyed?

    woah...wait a second..this isnt bucknuts....where am i?

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