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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

Discussion in 'College Football' started by Mike80, Jul 26, 2007.


Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  1. Boston College

    29 vote(s)
  2. Cincinnati

    17 vote(s)
  3. Connecticut

    6 vote(s)
  4. Duke

    17 vote(s)
  5. Georgia Tech

    52 vote(s)
  6. Kansas

    44 vote(s)
  7. Maryland

    68 vote(s)
  8. Missouri

    91 vote(s)
  9. North Carolina

    29 vote(s)
  10. Notre Dame

    200 vote(s)
  11. Oklahoma

    76 vote(s)
  12. Pittsburgh

    42 vote(s)
  13. Rutgers

    38 vote(s)
  14. Syracuse

    17 vote(s)
  15. Texas

    122 vote(s)
  16. Vanderbilt

    13 vote(s)
  17. Virginia

    40 vote(s)
  18. Virginia Tech

    58 vote(s)
  19. Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    25 vote(s)
  20. Add some other school(s) not listed

    16 vote(s)
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. BB73

    BB73 Loves Buckeye History Staff Member Bookie

    There's a new vBet on SEC expansion for those interested - it's only open until tomorrow morning.

  2. Nutriaitch

    Nutriaitch Retired Super Hero

    this is actually why i think they would go for it.
    they can still play each other OOC every year.

    Currently they each get a BCS check for whoever represents the ACC (neither of these schools is going to do it).
    Don't know how the ACC splits their BCS money.

    If NCST were to go to the SEC, then the UNC system gets their check for the ACC rep, PLUS the check from the SEC which quite often gets TWO teams into the BCS bowls.

    More money for the entire system.

    The move also improves NCST chances in basketball by not being in conference with UNC and Duke.
    Which could also mean more $ for the system.

    Not saying they definitely would go for it.

    Just saying that if I was Slive, that is where I would look.
    If not them, someone really similar to them.
  3. jlb1705

    jlb1705 hipster doofus Staff Member Bookie

    I suspect that TV money would eclipse potential bowl money or basketball money.
  4. Pheasant

    Pheasant This space for rent.

    Wouldn't the TV money also be better if NCSt were in the SEC?
  5. Nicknam4

    Nicknam4 Pootis

    I didn't even know Texas State existed.
  6. jlb1705

    jlb1705 hipster doofus Staff Member Bookie

    Of course. That was implied in my last post. My main point though is that the difference in bowl money and regular season basketball money is likely not that big between the ACC and SEC.

    Also, I'm not sure it's correct when Nutria says that it's the "university system" in North Carolina that would stand to benefit. That money doesn't make it past the bottom line of each athletic department's bottom line, and any increase would simply offset the amount of subsidy the department has to draw from the university's general fund or from student fees. It's not as if their athletic departments are drawing money from or contributing it to the same pool.
  7. Nutriaitch

    Nutriaitch Retired Super Hero

    i don't know how things are set up with them.

    the only model i'm familiar with is the LSU model.
    yeah, there are other schools in Louisiana that are part of the LSU system, but none of them are as big or financially sound as LSU.
    and none of their athletic departments are worth even mentioning on a message board.

    just that when I was looking at teams to potentially add to the East, they made the most sense to me.
    I can come up with good reasons why the SEC won't invite others, and why some others wouldn't want the SEC.

    NC State fits the mold the SEC should be looking to get.
  8. BB73

    BB73 Loves Buckeye History Staff Member Bookie


  9. BB73

    BB73 Loves Buckeye History Staff Member Bookie

    The meeting of aTm President Loftin with Texas legislators today has been postponed. At this point, it's uncertain whether that means it will be rescheduled or if it's just been cancelled.

    If aTm didn't sign a loyalty agreement last year, it might seem reasonable that they only would have to pay the same penalties as Colorado and Nebraska. But there will probably be a messy legal battle before that's settled, because there's also this:

    Last edited: Aug 16, 2011
  10. knapplc

    knapplc Jack Hoffman for Heisman

    That loyalty pledge was a brilliant move by Texas and/or Dan Beebe. If neither promulgated it, it's the very definition of serendipity for both. Texas has license to do whatever it wants to cash in on the other teams, it can stand by while ESPN strong-arms their conference "brothers" into compliance with every whim of the LHN, and all the while Beebe and Dodds can dangle that loyalty agreement over the heads of anyone who gripes or wants to leave.
  11. BB73

    BB73 Loves Buckeye History Staff Member Bookie

    Did the remaining teams actually sign anything, and has anybody seen it? Or was it something that Beebe only talked about the existence of, just top make the league look more stable?

    As I stated yesterday, some FOIA requests are in order so that those documents, if they exist, can be seen by the public.
  12. knapplc

    knapplc Jack Hoffman for Heisman

    I don't know if anything was ever signed, as in, words on a document. That may be a myth based on the desire by the Big XII to gain confirmation from Nebraska and Colorado that they were staying last year.

    Even if there was no signed document, I wonder if a verbal pledge by the remaining schools could be construed as a verbal contract, something with teeth? That I do not know.
  13. Pheasant

    Pheasant This space for rent.

    Today, after being at work, I can see that.
    Yesterday, after working outside all day until I started drinking, I did not.

    In the future I'll confine myself to the late night drunk thread when appropriate.

    I remember thinking, why wouldn't JLB get this, it seems like such an easy concept...:bonk:
  14. Mike80

    Mike80 I speeka da eennggglieesshhhh

    Muck and jlb1705 like this.
  15. BB73

    BB73 Loves Buckeye History Staff Member Bookie

    This is an interesting idea. The Big XII adds ND, which stabilizes it after aTm leaves, and they and Texas co-exist with their own TV network deals.



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