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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

Discussion in 'College Football' started by Mike80, Jul 26, 2007.

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Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  1. Boston College

    29 vote(s)
    9.9%
  2. Cincinnati

    17 vote(s)
    5.8%
  3. Connecticut

    6 vote(s)
    2.0%
  4. Duke

    17 vote(s)
    5.8%
  5. Georgia Tech

    52 vote(s)
    17.7%
  6. Kansas

    44 vote(s)
    15.0%
  7. Maryland

    68 vote(s)
    23.2%
  8. Missouri

    91 vote(s)
    31.1%
  9. North Carolina

    29 vote(s)
    9.9%
  10. Notre Dame

    199 vote(s)
    67.9%
  11. Oklahoma

    75 vote(s)
    25.6%
  12. Pittsburgh

    42 vote(s)
    14.3%
  13. Rutgers

    38 vote(s)
    13.0%
  14. Syracuse

    17 vote(s)
    5.8%
  15. Texas

    121 vote(s)
    41.3%
  16. Vanderbilt

    13 vote(s)
    4.4%
  17. Virginia

    40 vote(s)
    13.7%
  18. Virginia Tech

    58 vote(s)
    19.8%
  19. Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    25 vote(s)
    8.5%
  20. Add some other school(s) not listed

    15 vote(s)
    5.1%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Woody1968

    Woody1968 Agent Provocateur

    I wouldn't say zero, but I agree, this is not happening.
     
  2. DaveyBoy

    DaveyBoy Our Honor Defend

    I agree that UVa and UNC are real long shots. They would be great additions.

    But unless the rest of the BigTen starts hiring better coaches, the conference is going to suck outside of 3 or 4 teams every year. The conference needs more money to do this unfortunately. With the BTN, conference expansion into huge TV markets is easy $



     
  3. Muck

    Muck Enjoy Every Sandwich Staff Member

    The crux of your argument is "I bet" & "it seems".

    Nebraska's worst decade means permanent doom while Notre Dame's isn't relevant. Five years ago Alabama was a 'shell of its former self' and ten years ago Texas was.

    Northern kids aren't fleeing to the SEC in droves anymore than Southern players are coming north.

    Yes the south is growing faster but the north still has a significant population advantage. Meanwhile the overall migration has slowed, completely reversed in some States (Louisiana & Florida) and the faster grower (North Carolina) isn't an SEC state at all.

    Hyperbolic sky is falling predictions aside, the bottom line is that the B1G region is still producing as much talent as that of the SEC and is quite capable of supporting four programs playing at a level competing for national titles.
     
    Last edited: Nov 17, 2012
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  5. DaveyBoy

    DaveyBoy Our Honor Defend

    Good points .

    The difference between Nebraska and Notre Dame is that for decades Nebraska was defined by how it did vs its key rival Oklahoma. The Big12 killed the OU/NU rivalry and that hurts Nebraska to this day. It simply doesn't have a real rival with a quality program......yet. Meanwhile, ND has maintained it's NBC contract, it's rivalry with USC, and its aura or being special. ND is on the steep upswing......NU is doing decently but a notch or two below ND.

    The South has a lot more elite prospects in its region than the BigTen. It can afford to lose some. The BigTen mid-tier teams can't afford that. Bama starts two Ohio kids. LSU always has 1 or 2 elite Midwestern kids. Texas and Oklahoma and even Florida State heavily recruit the midwest's elite kids.

    The demographics include population in total and by age, race, and socioeconomic background. Big cities in the South play a lot more football than big cities in the north where basketball is king.

    I fully agree that trends eventually reverse. I do think in the long run, the Midwest will be steady. But, bluntly, the concentration of blacks in the South trumps any number of farm boys in Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Iowa, Wisconsin, and Minnesota.

     
  6. jlb1705

    jlb1705 hipster doofus Staff Member Bookie

    Starting to look like this thing might have legs:

    Yahoo/Pat Forde: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaab--maryland--rutgers-in-serious-talks-about-move-to-big-ten.html

     
  7. Saw31

    Saw31 High Seas Rogue

    BTN better invest is some bigger cash registers...
     
  8. Woody1968

    Woody1968 Agent Provocateur

    Would rather have Syracuse than Rutgers, but this may get RCN NY/NJ to carry the Big Ten Network.

    (I have RCN)
     
    Last edited: Nov 17, 2012
  9. jlb1705

    jlb1705 hipster doofus Staff Member Bookie

    ...

     
  10. Jake

    Jake circumcising the mosquito

    Maybe...but I live in Ohio and don't get BTN. But my cable company (Armstrong) is based in Maryland so hope springs eternal.
     
  11. Muck

    Muck Enjoy Every Sandwich Staff Member

    [​IMG]
     
  12. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.

    Rutgers isn't all that bad, they beat the fucking Bearcraps today.

    :biggrin:
     
  13. Woody1968

    Woody1968 Agent Provocateur

    If Maryland does join, I hope Delany has the balls to tell them they can't wear that crap they have been wearing the last two years.
     
  14. rampageripster

    rampageripster Freshman


    why? this gimmick certainly helped Oregon out. It's not my tradition that's eroding, let them do what they think is necessary to get kid's attention.
     
  15. alexhortdog95

    alexhortdog95 Melvin Gordon has stolen our souls...

    Delaney is a PIMP if he can pull all this off. Giving a finger to the SEC.
    These teams can only join if we can get rid of Ped State, though.
     
  16. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.

    The design represents their state flag.

    [​IMG]

    I don't know what the history is that promulgated the design, but the people in Maryland are probably very proud of it. My guess is Delaney wouldn't even consider touching that issue.

    :osu:
     

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