Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[Abenaki]

I like "BIG". All caps. No "The", or "Conference". Just BIG.
"BIG announced today that they run this shit, and their army is currently marching on ESPN headquarters. The Southeastern Conference is holed up in a Shakey's Pizza outside Atlanta and has no comment. May God have mercy on our souls."

BIG is where it's at motherfuckers. Go BIG or go home. No no no, not you Notre Dame...you go home.

 

[BuckTwenty]

I think that Delany's game plan is pretty clear-

Take Maryland to stick a knife into ACC to start it's bleeding.

Take Rutgers to kill the Big East as a football conference.

Float rumors that Texas, Missouri, UNC, UVa, Georgia Tech, FSU, et al have been talking with the BIG about 15 and 16 to create panic that other teams need to make decisions soon about where they land AND and panic among other conferences to fill out their membership.

Watch to see survives the coming fight between the ACC and the Big 12.

If the ACC dies, try to pry Notre Dame into membership one last time.

Depending on Notre Dames answer, pick the 1 or 2 teams that make the most sense.

Well put. That's as good a cliff notes version as what we are seeing happening.

I would add to that, after going through pages and pages of expansion thread in The Shag, is that the Big XII goes as Texas goes; they are the key to that conference. The best thing for UT is to be the the biggest fish in the "Texas Conference". If Texas were to leave the Big XII, it dies... and it would die quickly.

To a lesser extent, UNC is the Texas of the ACC. If UNC leaves the ACC (or as the Shagsters call it, "ESPN's pet"), it will be a slower death, but it would be the beginning of the end for that conference.

Despite what people might think, I don't think there's any chance in hell ND will ever come to the B1G. There's a better chance of Texas joining the conference than ND joining, if that gives you any idea. The domers will join the Big XII or the Pac X before considering becoming a full member in the B1G. That'll never stop Jimmy D from pursuing them like a stalker, though.

 

[cincibuck]

Not mentioned so far is the fact that Rutgers and Maryland add to the academic reputation of the Big 10. Rutgers has long been an established 1st tier public U and Maryland has gone through a serious upgrade in the last 15 years.

(which reminds me, BWI/PSU whiners, look where Paterno U. was academically prior to 1993).

UNC would add to that academic rep, as would Syracuse - funny, but I believe it was Syracuse coach Ben Schwartzwalder who led the charge against admitting Penn State to the Big East-

Just guessing, but if Notre Dame gets into the NC game I think they become more convinced of their need NOT to join a football conference and have to fully contribute to the strength of all.

 

[RugbyBuck]

Just guessing, but if Notre Dame gets into the NC game I think they become more convinced of their need NOT to join a football conference and have to fully contribute to the strength of all.

Yes, they will see this one-time aberration as the dawn of a new thousand-year reich of domer independence.

 

[buckeyegrad]

I heard the B1G is in talks with Grinnell College so they can brag about having the highest student body.

FIFY

 

[MaxBuck]

How about ... change the name

No.

Just no.

 

[Hodgepodge]

Yep. AND they think that Va Tech would be a great addition because Blacksburg is "the same type of town as Rhythmic Slappy Valley" and VPI has the same type of fanbase.

Both State College and Blacksburg are located in Appalachia, so yeah, they have the same type of fans all right.

 

[Mike80]

Both State College and Blacksburg are located in Appalachia, so yeah, they have the same type of fans all right.

No dude, trust me. They don't.

 

[Hodgepodge]

Not mentioned so far is the fact that Rutgers and Maryland add to the academic reputation of the Big 10. Rutgers has long been an established 1st tier public U and Maryland has gone through a serious upgrade in the last 15 years.

UNC would add to that academic rep, as would Syracuse - funny, but I believe it was Syracuse coach Ben Schwartzwalder who led the charge against admitting Penn State to the Big East-

Syracuse is a very good school, but they aren't the same type of school as those in the B1G . As opposed to the B1G schools, they aren't research-heavy, and in fact just voluntarily withdrew from the AAU because their focus had changed so much since they were inducted.

 

[Buckeye513]

How about taking uva someone else that continues the same geographic footprint and change the name to the big northern conference (BNC)? I love the tradition of the big ten but as dylan said, the times they are a changing. We were the western conference first, so it's not like changing the name would be unprecedented.

It's not about geography or the number of teams. "Big Ten" is a brand.

 

[Hodgepodge]

No dude, trust me. They don't.

Appalachians. Their fans are both Appalachians. Granted, only one set seems to base their morals on the forest scene from Deliverance, but they are still Appalachians.

You know, not that there's anything wrong with that (the town I grew up in is now in Appalachia as well).

 

[sflbuck]

Well put. That's as good a cliff notes version as what we are seeing happening.

I would add to that, after going through pages and pages of expansion thread in The Shag, is that the Big XII goes as Texas goes; they are the key to that conference. The best thing for UT is to be the the biggest fish in the "Texas Conference". If Texas were to leave the Big XII, it dies... and it would die quickly.

To a lesser extent, UNC is the Texas of the ACC. If UNC leaves the ACC (or as the Shagsters call it, "ESPN's pet"), it will be a slower death, but it would be the beginning of the end for that conference.

Despite what people might think, I don't think there's any chance in hell ND will ever come to the B1G. There's a better chance of Texas joining the conference than ND joining, if that gives you any idea. The domers will join the Big XII or the Pac X before considering becoming a full member in the B1G. That'll never stop Jimmy D from pursuing them like a stalker, though.

I totally agree that ND will say no one last time. That said, Delany has not given up on his idea that the conference champion of the 4 major conferences (looking like BIG, SEC, PAC and Big 12) get an automatic invite to the 4 team national championship playoff (if they are in the top 6 teams via some formula). SEC and others said no, but the SEC may reconsider when they realize that one loss SEC teams could be left out of the four teams in some years ( Think about what the situation was before KSU and Oregon lost last weekend AND if we (OSU) were not ineligible to play in the championship games). If Delany gets this rule in, Notre Dame will over time become a quaint relic of the past that used to dominate football, just like Yale, Army and Navy are now.

 

[Woody1968]

Appalachians. Their fans are both Appalachians. Granted, only one set seems to base their morals on the forest scene from Deliverance, but they are still Appalachians.

You know, not that there's anything wrong with that (the town I grew up in is now in Appalachia as well).

Blacksburg makes RSV look like Chicagoland.

 

[Mike80]

Appalachians. Their fans are both Appalachians. Granted, only one set seems to base their morals on the forest scene from Deliverance, but they are still Appalachians.

You know, not that there's anything wrong with that (the town I grew up in is now in Appalachia as well).

I think you are missing my point. I grew up in Appalachia too - around Ped State fans no less. It's not just that they are Ped State fans and part of a cult, the entire state is a fuckin cult.

Pennsylvania is different. Extremely different. As in inbred different.

While Va Tech is indeed in Appalachia, they do not believe that they are the top of the world. Ped Staters do, ESPECIALLY the fucksticks around Rhythmic Slappy Valley.

 

[Muck]

You could say the same about Ohio if we were all judged by the "wolverineMikes" of Ohio.

Just sayin'.

yaddayaddaMike (and others like him) are the emo kids of college sports fans. They pick a team to follow that is disliked in the area they grew specifically to annoy everyone around them.

People from New Jersey spread out into other States and still manage to ruin everything around them.

So does anybody know, have we expanded yet today? TIA

The Big 12 is on deck. They're just waiting to see how much UMD actually ends up paying to escape the ACC.

Wait wait... where's Chip Brown (UT mouthpiece) been in all of this... I haven't heard a peep.. it can't be true until it comes from Chip Browns "sources"

Someone should start a vBet on who is the most full of shit.

Chip Brown
Purple Book Cat
The Dude

Me & NY are hurt :pirate1:

Who said anything about NY?

Don't get me wrong I'm no fan of that city either but at least it's people are diluted by a constant influx of immigrants and tend to stay safely cocooned in their island prison.