Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[jlb1705]

None. UVA is an excellent school with a crappy football program. I cannot imagine them pulling in significant viewership. Home team or no, nobody likes watching a consistent loser.

It doesn't matter how many people want to watch them. It matters how many people in their market will tolerate having BTN on their cable bill.

Nobody here wants to watch OWN either, but if you have cable or a satellite dish Oprah's getting your money anyway.

 

[CincyInterloper]

Their "Crappy" football program has the same winning percentage as Maryland, their stadium seats more, and they have quite a bit of wealthy alumni.

The same winning percentage as Maryland? I'm not sure that helps your argument much. Don't get me wrong, Virginia is a prestigious University and would make a excellent addition to the Big Ten, but they are another Indiana (or Maryland, if you prefer) when it comes to the quality of their football.

 

[Buckeye513]

The same winning percentage as Maryland? I'm not sure that helps your argument much. Don't get me wrong, Virginia is a prestigious University and would make a excellent addition to the Big Ten, but they are another Indiana (or Maryland, if you prefer) when it comes to the quality of their football.

This is true and irrelevant.

 

[CincyInterloper]

It doesn't matter how many people want to watch them. It matters how many people in their market will tolerate having BTN on their cable bill.

Nobody here wants to watch OWN either, but if you have cable or a satellite dish Oprah's getting your money anyway.

Kinda like the guy in the "Untouchables" said: "It ain't supposed to be good, it's supposed to be bought."

 

[lvbuckeye]

None. UVA is an excellent school with a crappy football program. I cannot imagine them pulling in significant viewership. Home team or no, nobody likes watching a consistent loser.

eventually you guys will learn that this is not simply about how good Maryland or Rutgers or Virginia's football teams are and whether those schools have enough fans.

it's about the fact that there are a TON of B1G alumni living in these areas.

the B1G will bring its fan base with it.

 

[sparcboxbuck]

Not only that, Virginia is the gateway to UNC and one of the beast Public Universities in the Nation, sitting on a great recruiting area.

UVa ain't too bad either.

 

[Bucknut24]

http://www.eersauthority.com/expansion-update-acc-on-the-brink/


cliffnotes, they say B1G will get UVA and Ga Tech, and then maybe UNC

 

[sepia5]

http://www.eersauthority.com/expansion-update-acc-on-the-brink/


cliffnotes, they say B1G will get UVA and Ga Tech, and then maybe UNC

The B1G isn't going to take 17 teams.

 

[sparcboxbuck]

The B1G isn'tagging to take 17 teams.

B1G + UVa + GA Tech + UNC - Ped State = Epic Win.

 

[IronBuckI]

http://www.eersauthority.com/expansion-update-acc-on-the-brink/


cliffnotes, they say B1G will get UVA and Ga Tech, and then maybe UNC

The B1G isn'tagging to take 17 teams.

You missed the best part of that story. 17 for the win!

the Big 10 has all but decided to accept the applications of Georgia Tech and UVA and is seriously considering adding UNC as the Big 10?s 17th member as insurance against potential U.S. Department of Education sanctions against PSU that could lead to Penn State being ineligible to receive federal student aid due to violations of the Clery Act.

I'm not really buying it, but it's still a lot of fun to read. :tongue2:

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

I would rather if the next 2 schools that end up in the B1G are "football schools" As much as I personally despise ND, I have to believe they are in they end game.

In any case.... adding say UVA and UNC -
East
Ohio State
Skunkbear
Sparty
Ped
Virginia
Maryland
Rutgers
North Carolina

West
Nebraska
Wisconsin
Iowa
Minnesota
Purdue
Northwestern
Illinois
Indiana

That's pretty equally balanced, I think (and thinking in terms of football) The east has two "powers" (OSU and you know who) as does the West (Neby and Wisky (though, this assumes Wisky is here to stay, long term, which I'm not sure I can believe)) and 4 teams which are reasonably likely to win the division any given season (OSU, Skunk, Ped (sanctions notwithstanding), Sparty) as does the West - if you assume one of Purdue Northwestern or Illinois can have the occasional strong year or two. Then, there's the bottom feeders, although, when they cheat Carolina can field a pretty good football team...

Thinking in terms of Basketball, the East is clearly stronger, but the West doesn't look like bullshit.

 

[ScriptOhio]

http://www.eersauthority.com/expansion-update-acc-on-the-brink/


cliffnotes, they say B1G will get UVA and Ga Tech, and then maybe UNC

"Sources close to WVU with ties to Ohio State President E. Gorden Gee confirm that the Big 10 has all but decided to accept the applications of Georgia Tech and UVA and is seriously considering adding UNC as the Big 10’s 17th member as insurance against potential U.S. Department of Education sanctions against PSU that could lead to Penn State being ineligible to receive federal student aid due to violations of the Clery Act." and "current or future ACC members Duke, Wake, Pitt, and Syracuse currently do not have suitors within the big 4 conferences."



I don't like Pitt.

 

[cincibuck]

http://www.eersauthority.com/expansion-update-acc-on-the-brink/


cliffnotes, they say B1G will get UVA and Ga Tech, and then maybe UNC

"Left out: Pitt, Boston College, Duke, Wake, Syracuse" and Cincinnati... Lots of hearts being broken here and given the strength of the academic side of several of these schools, along with an inability to pay the bills for football I have to wonder if several won't be forced to drop the game. How long can some of these schools continue with a program that can't pay its own way in an era when the pressure to lower tuition is going to do nothing but mount?

I know for a fact that the faculties of Miami and U Cincinnati have been rumbling about how much the school has to shell out to keep the football program going.

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

"Left out: Pitt, Boston College, Duke, Wake, Syracuse" and Cincinnati... Lots of hearts being broken here and given the strength of the academic side of several of these schools, along with an inability to pay the bills for football I have to wonder if several won't be forced to drop the game. How long can some of these schools continue with a program that can't pay its own way in an era when the pressure to lower tuition is going to do nothing but mount?

I know for a fact that the faculties of Miami and U Cincinnati have been rumbling about how much the school has to shell out to keep the football program going.

I think what's going to happen is after the Big 4 Conferences are set, the rest are going to end up being like D-IAA. I don't know what they'll call it, but I think what needs to happen is schools like UC or Miami, OU.. etc.. have to start competing with a group of schools in the same "tier" as them. As it is, none of these teams is ever going to win the NC. Have them play for some other championship.

Not sure I articulated that real well. Point is, there are ways that schools like UC can remain able to field a football team without having to compete financially with the Big Boys.

 

[ScriptOhio]

West
Nebraska
Wisconsin
Iowa
Minnesota
Purdue
Northwestern
Illinois
Indiana


Thinking in terms of Basketball, the East is clearly stronger, but the West doesn't look like bull[Mark May].

Indiana (and Tom Crean) would totally dominate that division.