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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

Discussion in 'College Football' started by Mike80, Jul 26, 2007.


Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  1. Boston College

    29 vote(s)
  2. Cincinnati

    17 vote(s)
  3. Connecticut

    6 vote(s)
  4. Duke

    17 vote(s)
  5. Georgia Tech

    52 vote(s)
  6. Kansas

    44 vote(s)
  7. Maryland

    68 vote(s)
  8. Missouri

    91 vote(s)
  9. North Carolina

    29 vote(s)
  10. Notre Dame

    200 vote(s)
  11. Oklahoma

    76 vote(s)
  12. Pittsburgh

    42 vote(s)
  13. Rutgers

    38 vote(s)
  14. Syracuse

    17 vote(s)
  15. Texas

    122 vote(s)
  16. Vanderbilt

    13 vote(s)
  17. Virginia

    40 vote(s)
  18. Virginia Tech

    58 vote(s)
  19. Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    25 vote(s)
  20. Add some other school(s) not listed

    16 vote(s)
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. RugbyBuck

    RugbyBuck Our church has no bells.

    FWIW, UNC/UVA grab a lot of the Atlanta tv market. While I'd love to have GT on board, there are a ton of Tarheel/Cav alums in/around Atlanta. They all move here after graduation.
  2. FIFY
  3. VBSJ

    VBSJ Newbie

    Since they're either go to court or mediation, how low does Maryland negotiate the exit fee to?

    The lawsuit filed Tuesday was for about $53 million. Incredible the exit fee went from $10 million to $50 million in less than a year.
  4. Muck

    Muck Enjoy Every Sandwich Staff Member

    Maryland had originally agreed to raising the fee to $20M so I would be surprised if the final amount were less than that. $20-$30M range is my guess.
  5. exhawg

    exhawg Self Mythologizing Monster Staff Member

    It will be interesting to see if them voting no on the increase changes anything.
  6. Dryden

    Dryden Sober as Sarkisian Staff Member Tech Admin

    Loh's point of contention was that there was nothing formal drafted re: the increase from $20m to $50m or a date written in contract for when it would take effect. Loh has characterized the fee increase as a conference call amongst ACC members, a 10-2 vote in favor of, and with a majority vote passing the $50m fee went into effect immediately.

    There was an article detailing this at, but it's past the free cut-off date and is now premium.

    Between this and the [Mark May]ty TV deal Swofford negotiated that essentially holds every member hostage until 2027, it makes sense why Maryland was looking for an exit sign, any exit sign to anywhere, ASAP. The University wanted out before the forfeited anymore TV dollars or had that $50m exit-fee in an ACC membership manual next year.
  7. VBSJ

    VBSJ Newbie

    That's what I'm trying to figure out, because if it's $20m and you're Florida State or Clemson, leave the ACC immediately.

    Both Clemson and FSU will eventually be making half of what in-state SEC schools will be making from TV. Same with Georgia Tech.

    So that's why I'm wondering if everyone's just waiting to see what Maryland pays.
  8. MaxBuck

    MaxBuck 2014 National Champions!

    It will be interesting to see whether the ACC is able to hold Maryland liable to pay a fee it never actually agreed to. Unless UM's continued participation in ACC activities was regarded as effective agreement with contract terms (a position I find hard to swallow from a contract perspective), it seems to me Maryland has an excellent position from which to claim coercion by the ACC and therefore relief from most of the "liquidated damages" (which is all these exit fees amount to).
  9. VBSJ

    VBSJ Newbie

    It's comical that the $53 million lawsuit is three times the ACC's annual operating budget.

    I hope the Big Ten is at least a sounding board or assistant counsel to Maryland, because they might get ganged up on.
  10. Muck

    Muck Enjoy Every Sandwich Staff Member

    That is my thought as well. Talks are going on through back channels but we won't see anything concrete until schools have a more concrete number for the Maryland exit fees.
  11. muffler dragon

    muffler dragon Bien. Bien chiludo.

    Doesn't this beg the consideration that IF more schools left at the same time, THEN the ACC would have less of an argument for collection of such an exorbitant amount?
  12. Muck

    Muck Enjoy Every Sandwich Staff Member

    Probably but then again it might also result in a TI lawsuit against the B1G (or whoever). I would think that the next piece to move is most likely FSU since they were the other school to vote against the fees, but that would also require them having a guaranteed spot to land.
  13. ORD_Buckeye

    ORD_Buckeye Wrong glass, Sir.

    There's a lesson to be learned in the destruction of the ACC. If you choose willingly and of your own volition to give sanctuary to the domers, you will be dealt with....harshly. Siege will be laid to your castle. Your people will starve. Your fields will be burned. Your slaves will be killed. Your children sold into perpetual slavery. You will be drawn and quartered and your entrails will be brought back to Chicago to decorate the Michigan Avenue bridge. The generations will echo with the howling lamentations of your women. No one will remember your name.

    It's too late for the ACC, for their fate is sealed and their time is at hand. Other conferences listen up: don't give sanctuary to the domers.
  14. kinch

    kinch Wash me Staff Member

    It seems too many people are missing the big issue here. This issue leads to a determination of either the failure of Delaney or the prophecy of what is to come.

    Football is becoming entirely too difficult to watch. Crimsons have become magentas, and scarlets have become reds. What team are we cheering for? Colors have receded to their most primary tendencies. In adding Maryland and Rutgers, Ohio State has seen its prominence further diluted by the reds of the world, confusing all of us who are confused by things.

    Reducing maize to yellow (as opposed to WTF), along with gold, and crimson to red and so forth, we have currently the following distribution of B1G colors:


    The colors in the chart do not relate to colors. They relate to words. This is a thinking man's exercise.

    As can be clearly seen above, red, being purple, is way too prominent now with the additions of the new schools. However, two common colors, being green and purple, or bluish and purplish respectively, are underrepresented. orange, or orange, is also lacking in the B1G, but is also ugly.

    Either Delaney failed or we can foresee from the chart what new schools will join the B1G.

    I am guessing that we will soon see schools added that will fill the color gaps. I am compiling a breakdown of all colors of all teams and of their players to better determine who our new members will be.
    Last edited: Nov 27, 2012
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  15. BuckeyeSoldier

    BuckeyeSoldier 2 time Reigning BuckeyePlanet Poker Champion

    I think there is something very wrong with you.

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