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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

Discussion in 'College Football' started by Mike80, Jul 26, 2007.


Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  1. Boston College

    29 vote(s)
  2. Cincinnati

    17 vote(s)
  3. Connecticut

    6 vote(s)
  4. Duke

    17 vote(s)
  5. Georgia Tech

    52 vote(s)
  6. Kansas

    44 vote(s)
  7. Maryland

    68 vote(s)
  8. Missouri

    91 vote(s)
  9. North Carolina

    29 vote(s)
  10. Notre Dame

    200 vote(s)
  11. Oklahoma

    76 vote(s)
  12. Pittsburgh

    42 vote(s)
  13. Rutgers

    38 vote(s)
  14. Syracuse

    17 vote(s)
  15. Texas

    122 vote(s)
  16. Vanderbilt

    13 vote(s)
  17. Virginia

    40 vote(s)
  18. Virginia Tech

    58 vote(s)
  19. Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    25 vote(s)
  20. Add some other school(s) not listed

    16 vote(s)
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. ulukinatme

    ulukinatme Old Skool

  2. Muck

    Muck Enjoy Every Sandwich Staff Member

    You forget that the Pac 12 doesn't 'need' to pick anyone. They are safe on a geographical island. The only reason eastern conferences are scrambling is because they are competing against one another.

    BYU will never be in the Pac, it isn't just Stanford & Cal who are against it. Dealing with years and years of racism from BYU fans & even school representatives has left a very bad taste in their mouth.

    Keep up with what? Where is it said that a conference needs 14 - 16 schools?
  3. jlb1705

    jlb1705 hipster doofus Staff Member Bookie

    That, and they are on good footing demographically. The population is shifting in their direction. Combined with what you said about their relative isolation, they can afford to wait and see which schools grow into Pac-12 caliber rather for reaching for something that that falls outside of what they consider important.
  4. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.

    Nowhere, you only need 12 for a CCG. However, if the other major conferences are getting more TV money (per team) since they have 16 teams; then to be financially competive the PAC12 may need 16 teams too.
  5. muffler dragon

    muffler dragon Bien. Bien chiludo.

    I can see that, and maybe I'm just caught up in the [Mark May] because of my eastern roots while living in the PNW. However, I do get the feeling some times out here that if you're not in the conversation, then you're getting left behind somehow.

    Understood, and that's just one of those things that is known but not publicly stated any more out here. It may be that there are so many Mormons in my locale that it's never discussed, but it's definitely silent on the history.
  6. Muck

    Muck Enjoy Every Sandwich Staff Member

    More of an interesting tidbit than anything but the population shifts out west are almost completely seeded by California. These days very few people are moving from E to W. It is almost entirely Californians fleeing to surrounding states (and then trying to ruin them as well lol).

    Mormons also tend to have a somewhat ... flexible ... view of their own history.
  7. Bucknut24

    Bucknut24 Trolololol

    Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken
    Rutgers gets made fun of, Louisville gets praised in realignment. Records last six years: Rutgers 47-28, Louisville 38-35.
  8. IronBuckI

    IronBuckI Calmer than you are.

    Cutting the same pie, or a slightly larger pie, 16 ways isn't going to make them more competitive financially.
  9. Woody1968

    Woody1968 Agent Provocateur

  10. Mike80

    Mike80 I speeka da eennggglieesshhhh

    The fucking idiots who are making fun of Rutgers and praising Louisville think universities are only there to provide sporting events.

    Yes I'm looking at you, espin....
  11. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.

    Isn't the reason that the B1G is going from 12 teams to 14 teams is that each team's piece of the pie (i.e. annual share of the conference's TV revenue) will be significantly larger?

    Just sayin': If each B1G team gets $35M and each PAC12 team gets $20M annually from TV revenue there is a competitive imbalance on what the school's athletic department can afford to do (unless the difference is made up elsewhere).
  12. Muck

    Muck Enjoy Every Sandwich Staff Member

    FWIW the SEC didn't get a significant increase for adding A&M/Missouri.

    Oh and MTSU to CUSA!
  13. FCollinsBuckeye

    FCollinsBuckeye Senior Former Game Champion

    No doubt. Don't they even realize how the recent movements will improve the Girls of the Big Ten issue?

  14. exhawg

    exhawg Self Mythologizing Monster Staff Member

    I get what you are saying but it seems like if the B1G, SEC, and 16 of the ACC/B12 are all at 16 the quality of the Pac12 product won't be as good especially if they only have 3-4 good football teams a year. The Pac12 will never go away, but they'll always be stuck as the 3rd best conference. I don't think the money is better with 16 unless they can get a school like Texas, but it would make them competitively better.

    Also, you aren't going to have a Pac12/B1G or SEC challenge in bball if you match up the top 12 of the 16 team conferences with all 12 Pac12 teams.
  15. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.

    Maybe not yet, but they're working on it:

    The SEC is weeks away from restructuring its media rights deal with its current partners, CBS and ESPN, according to several industry sources, and in addition to talks about increasing rights fees, the conversations have also included more talk about a conference channel that could be ready for launch in time for the 2014 football season.

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