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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

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Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  • Boston College

    Votes: 32 10.2%

  • Cincinnati

    Votes: 19 6.1%

  • Connecticut

    Votes: 6 1.9%

  • Duke

    Votes: 21 6.7%

  • Georgia Tech

    Votes: 55 17.6%

  • Kansas

    Votes: 46 14.7%

  • Maryland

    Votes: 67 21.4%

  • Missouri

    Votes: 90 28.8%

  • North Carolina

    Votes: 39 12.5%

  • Notre Dame

    Votes: 209 66.8%

  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 78 24.9%

  • Pittsburgh

    Votes: 45 14.4%

  • Rutgers

    Votes: 40 12.8%

  • Syracuse

    Votes: 18 5.8%

  • Texas

    Votes: 121 38.7%

  • Vanderbilt

    Votes: 15 4.8%

  • Virginia

    Votes: 47 15.0%

  • Virginia Tech

    Votes: 62 19.8%

  • Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    Votes: 27 8.6%

  • Add some other school(s) not listed

    Votes: 25 8.0%
  • Total voters
    313
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ORD_Buckeye said:
They act like they blew us out those two games. In the real world, their greatest team EVERWITH the greatest QB EVER needed a last minute comeback and Ryan Hamby's stone hands to beat us in 05. Then Troy & Co thoroughly whipped their asses the next year. We weren't supposed to even be competitive with them in the Fiesta Bowl, but they needed to come back to barely beat us. AND since 2004-2009 are the only years that matter in the history of cfb, we're hopelessly embarrassed that they took 2 out of 3 from us.

Anyhow, I think Mongo is saying that, given some 3rd rate Texas recruits, the Juggalos will somehow take the all time series from us.
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3rd rate? Whose getting the 1st rate recruits? Certainly not Austin
 
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Somebody on a Houston board posted this GIF to explain the Big 12 Conference expansion process.


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CincyInterloper said:
I'm not sure that's a meaningful statistic. Walnut Hills sent about 100 students to UC in 2015 out of a freshman class of of something like 6,500, or 1.5% of the total. I'd be surprised if any public state school had any one high school from another state that cracked the top 10 for representation. That includes top tier state universities like OSU.
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Because it began as a city owned school, Cincinnati is bound to be more of a commuter driven school. It wasn't until they transitioned to a state school (a ten year period beginning in 1968) that they had more than 2 dorms to house students.

Then there's the historic/cultural side of the city itself. Cleveland was settled primarily by families from the New York, Pennsylvania and New England area, while Cincinnati was settled first by Virginians and later by other southerners - which explains the still remaining political split - Cincinnati being solid red and Cleveland blue. It also explains the high proportion of Southern sympathizers in Cincinnati during the Civil War.

Until the suburbs really took off, Cincinnati was very European - i.e. you were born, raised and educated, put to work and died here. P&G and Western and Southern, the two biggest employers for a long time, were very much family and city oriented and liked to keep it that way. You still read stories of men and women who worked in menial jobs for thirty or forty years, but retired with a fortune in P&G stock.

Dayton, my home town, never had that kind of hold on the population that I know of. Columbus didn't either in the time I called it home - 1961 - 1975. I don't know about Cleveland.
 
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cincibuck said:
Because it began as a city owned school, Cincinnati is bound to be more of a commuter driven school. It wasn't until they transitioned to a state school (a ten year period beginning in 1968) that they had more than 2 dorms to house students.

Then there's the historic/cultural side of the city itself. Cleveland was settled primarily by families from the New York, Pennsylvania and New England area, while Cincinnati was settled first by Virginians and later by other southerners - which explains the still remaining political split - Cincinnati being solid red and Cleveland blue. It also explains the high proportion of Southern sympathizers in Cincinnati during the Civil War.

Until the suburbs really took off, Cincinnati was very European - i.e. you were born, raised and educated, put to work and died here. P&G and Western and Southern, the two biggest employers for a long time, were very much family and city oriented and liked to keep it that way. You still read stories of men and women who worked in menial jobs for thirty or forty years, but retired with a fortune in P&G stock.

Dayton, my home town, never had that kind of hold on the population that I know of. Columbus didn't either in the time I called it home - 1961 - 1975. I don't know about Cleveland.
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I think the Cincy culture is why they never did shit with UC either. They wanted to keep it local. Had they taken the route that Pittsburgh did with Pitt (also founded as a municipal university), then it would have been a serious institution when it was folded into the state system, and there'd be some justification for some kind of co-flagship status. Instead they built up a decent hospital/med school (not surprising since Cincy didn't have a private Case or Cleveland Clinic alternative) and really made little to no investment in the university itself. Like I've said before, it's an AAU level med school attached to a MAC level university, which is why Ono's calls for flagship status were so pathetic and self-serving.

Another interesting thing I noticed is that friends and acquaintances from Cincinnati that I knew at Ohio State ALL ended up back there. People from the rest of the state were a mix of ending up where they came from, staying in Columbus or leaving the state.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
Another interesting thing I noticed is that friends and acquaintances from Cincinnati that I knew at Ohio State ALL ended up back there. People from the rest of the state were a mix of ending up where they came from, staying in Columbus or leaving the state.
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Like I said, it was a very European city. I'm guessing, but it seems to me that P&G execs tend to live in Indian Hill, Wyoming, Glendale and Hyde Park sections of the town. West Chester (Lakota East and West) and Mason are corporate towns. The stats on West Chester state that the average home turns over every five years - i.e. most of those those folks aren't attached to the city.
 
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