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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  • Boston College

    Votes: 32 10.2%
  • Cincinnati

    Votes: 19 6.1%
  • Connecticut

    Votes: 6 1.9%
  • Duke

    Votes: 21 6.7%
  • Georgia Tech

    Votes: 55 17.6%
  • Kansas

    Votes: 46 14.7%
  • Maryland

    Votes: 67 21.4%
  • Missouri

    Votes: 90 28.8%
  • North Carolina

    Votes: 39 12.5%
  • Notre Dame

    Votes: 209 66.8%
  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 78 24.9%
  • Pittsburgh

    Votes: 45 14.4%
  • Rutgers

    Votes: 40 12.8%
  • Syracuse

    Votes: 18 5.8%
  • Texas

    Votes: 121 38.7%
  • Vanderbilt

    Votes: 15 4.8%
  • Virginia

    Votes: 47 15.0%
  • Virginia Tech

    Votes: 62 19.8%
  • Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    Votes: 27 8.6%
  • Add some other school(s) not listed

    Votes: 25 8.0%

  • Total voters
    313
I hate to break it to the juggalos or anyone else who gets in, but the B12 is dead anyways in 2025 when the GOR expires, and Okie bolts for the SEC and Tejas arrogantly tries independence (LHN doesn't expire until '31).

Yep, prob just a get rich quick scheme by Texas, Oklahoma, and Kansas since they are already on their way out. Extort nearly an extra billion out of ESPN and Fox over the next 9 years and guarantee the end of your conference, then wait for the gentleman callers to make their propositions. UT probably can't join another conference immediately anyways because Texas lawmakers will try to package them with Texas Tech, TCU, Baylor, UofH, SMU, North Texas, Texas State, and Austin Community College. Independence for a few years might not be so bad while some of their baggage withers away.
 
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Can you imagine the hilarity and uproar by Tejas fans when they don't make it into the playoffs as an unbeaten after running through a regular season schedule consisting of one, maybe two P5 schools and the rest of the junky Texas schools? Because that's how you get left out of the playoffs as an independent, and I bet the lawmakers would put pressure on them to have a schedule just like that to keep the football money in the state without the help of a P5 conference to do so.
 
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http://newsok.com/tramel-ou-not-anti-expansion-ou-is-anti-expansion-candidates/article/5520007

Tramel: OU not anti-expansion; OU is anti-expansion candidates
Berry Tramel
Published: September 27, 2016 8:25 PM CDT
Updated: September 27, 2016 10:26 PM CDT
http://newsok.com/tramel-ou-not-ant...=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter#commentsModal

Big 12 expansion never has been and never will be a decision based on the comparative values of 10 members vs. 12.

To expand or not expand, that is not the question. Since the league lost Nebraska and Colorado, then Texas A&M and Missouri, the evergreen question has not been how many. The evergreen question has been who.

Which schools could fill the voids in marketing and competition and academics and geography?

The answer, no one. There were no perfect available candidates. There aren't any candidates who really can come close.

Which is why Big 12 expansion talks have ground to a halt, despite the league's July announcement that it was taking applications. Sports Illustrated led the media reports Tuesday, saying that OU President David Boren's assertion two weeks ago that expansion is “not a sure thing” has Big 12 decision-makers believing that Boren has reversed his stance on expansion and that it's not likely to happen despite the pony-and-dog show of the last two months.

Boren has not reversed his stance on expansion. He periodically wavers in his enthusiasm, one way or the other, and sometimes he does feel a longing for 12 members in a league that has 12 in its name.

But the truth is, Boren and every other cautious Big 12 administrator would embrace expansion, if two good candidates presented themselves.

“From Day One, expanding was OK if we replaced the teams we lost with teams of equal stature,” said an OU administrator Tuesday. “They are not out there.”

Brigham Young. Houston. Cincinnati. Connecticut. All have pluses and minuses. We can debate which candidates offer the best portfolios. We cannot debate that all have minuses.

Nebraska didn't have minuses. Texas A&M didn't have minuses. Colorado and Missouri didn't have minuses. All flagship universities in their states. All deep roots with fellow conference schools. All a decent (or better) amount of football tradition. All academically stout (all four members of the prestigious Association of American Universities).

“The teams we need have left,” another Big 12 administrator said Tuesday. “Whoever you add out there really devalues the whole conference. They don't add anything. Just to get 12? What's sacred about a number? Does that make you stable?”

Cont'd ...
 
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Probably the best scenario for producing the tastiest Juggalo tears. Had they been passed over in a 2 team expansion, they would have quickly latched onto the notion that they would be in the next 2 to get to 16.

Now, you essentially have the B12 saying, not only did we examine your potential for joining the conference and found it utterly lacking in value but our network partners were so disgusted by the thought of your invitation that they threatened legal action. You are exactly that worthless.
 
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Each and every one of you owes me one hundred Juggalo tears......and I want my Juggalo tears......And all y'all will git me one hundred Juggalo tears taken from the heads of one hundred cryin' Juggalos. Or you will die tryin'.
 
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