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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

Discussion in 'College Football' started by Mike80, Jul 26, 2007.

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Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  1. Boston College

    29 vote(s)
    9.8%
  2. Cincinnati

    17 vote(s)
    5.7%
  3. Connecticut

    5 vote(s)
    1.7%
  4. Duke

    17 vote(s)
    5.7%
  5. Georgia Tech

    51 vote(s)
    17.2%
  6. Kansas

    46 vote(s)
    15.5%
  7. Maryland

    67 vote(s)
    22.6%
  8. Missouri

    89 vote(s)
    30.1%
  9. North Carolina

    30 vote(s)
    10.1%
  10. Notre Dame

    200 vote(s)
    67.6%
  11. Oklahoma

    80 vote(s)
    27.0%
  12. Pittsburgh

    43 vote(s)
    14.5%
  13. Rutgers

    38 vote(s)
    12.8%
  14. Syracuse

    16 vote(s)
    5.4%
  15. Texas

    124 vote(s)
    41.9%
  16. Vanderbilt

    13 vote(s)
    4.4%
  17. Virginia

    40 vote(s)
    13.5%
  18. Virginia Tech

    58 vote(s)
    19.6%
  19. Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    26 vote(s)
    8.8%
  20. Add some other school(s) not listed

    16 vote(s)
    5.4%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. MaxBuck

    MaxBuck 2014 National Champions!

    The last time Group of 5 teams were added to Power 5 leagues, Utah went to the PAC and Rutgers went to the B1G.

    Utah is a force in the PAC. Rutgers is a joke in the B1G.

    QED
     
  2. cincibuck

    cincibuck You kids stay off my lawn!

    But Rutgers is a much stronger research school than Utah.
     
  3. kujirakira

    kujirakira Senior

    So the PAC is weak ? I'm not sure what we're supposed to take from this.

    But also not sure it's a great comparison... Rutgers was only in G5 for like a year after Big East imploded.
    How do we talk about recent G5 additions and leave out TCU? If we're counting Big East remnants, don't know why we're excluding WVU, Louisville, and Pitt.

    Interestingly, all these schools have been competitive in their new homes - except Rutgers, maybe Pitt.
    Can we trade PSU for Pitt?
     
  4. ORD_Buckeye

    ORD_Buckeye Wrong glass, Sir.

    Youre right that it's not always going to be tsun making the decisions. While they might swing the big dick in a lot of areas, there are plenty where the field is level with other schools in the B1G. Just off the top of my head vis-a-vis Ohio State, I'd include physics, chemical engineering, anything automotive, political science and certain area research centers (Russia/E. Europe, Middle Eastern and E. Asia spring to mind) and some where Ohio State swings the big dick, and tsun would most likely be looking to us for inclusion such as Astronomy and climate science.
     
  5. ORD_Buckeye

    ORD_Buckeye Wrong glass, Sir.

    Utah's not bad. Despite certain juggalo delusions, Utah is almost certainly the next public to get tapped on the shoulder, and they're significantly better than current bottom-feeder members such as Mizzou, Kansas or Yeshiva.

    See Page 20
     
  6. Jaxbuck

    Jaxbuck I hate tsun ‘18 Fantasy Baseball Champ

    So catching those of us who aren't familiar with the academic side up to current state, what P5 schools would meet the B1G academic criteria?
     
  7. ORD_Buckeye

    ORD_Buckeye Wrong glass, Sir.

    No-Brainer Publics: UVA, UNC, GaTech, Tejas, UCLA, Cal, Washington, Colorado, Florida, Pitt
    Borderline Publics: Mizzou, Kansas, UGA, aggy, Arizona, ISU, Utah

    I'm sure I've overlooked one or two, but you see that when you take out the "will never happen" schools like the PAC and SEC members, the pickings get pretty slim.
     
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  8. cincibuck

    cincibuck You kids stay off my lawn!

    Within reasonable geographic distance: Georgia, Florida - OK, that's a real stretch geographically, UNC, Pitt, Georgia Tech, Duke, Syracuse, Toronto, McGill, Simon Fraser. Have to make a decision about the rouge and 3 downs vs four. Pitt and Syracuse really seem to be the only two schools that I think would be interested from an academic POV. Don't know what they'd think in terms of athletics. They wanted no part of Penn State in the Big East, can't imagine they'd be anxious to have them as partners again. BTW - Penn State's academic growth and rep has soared since admission to the Big Ten, something the cult blatantly ignores.
     
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  9. ORD_Buckeye

    ORD_Buckeye Wrong glass, Sir.

    That's because all things academic came from the wise and powerful leadership of Dearest Leader Pa Joe Un.
     
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  10. ORD_Buckeye

    ORD_Buckeye Wrong glass, Sir.

    I don't think Pitt would be concerned with the pedsters. They'd absolutely want it from a rivalry standpoint while realizing that the B1G isn't JoePed's old proposed Eastern Conference of which he would have been the de-facto Commissioner. To the contrary, I'd see the pedsters going to the mattresses to keep Pitt out.
     
  11. Steve19

    Steve19 Watching. Always watching. Staff Member

  12. LordJeffBuck

    LordJeffBuck Illuminatus Emeritus Staff Member

    Here we go again....


     
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  13. MaxBuck

    MaxBuck 2014 National Champions!

    If we got Oklahoma and Tejas, the money coming into this conference would be astonishing, and those two schools would also benefit. Would be a win-win from an economic standpoint.
     
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  14. Oh8ch

    Oh8ch Cognoscente of Omphaloskepsis Staff Member

    This would solve the problem of a weak West Division and we could go back to a two team playoff - B1G vs SEC.

    Clemson and ND could join UCF to form a new lower division or join the SEC and B1G rerespectively. USC can turn their stadium into a museum and lead tours of what was once the PAC. I will miss the Rose Bowl but at least we will have CFB down to two time zones.
     
  15. colobuck79

    colobuck79 tilter of wind*ills

    Just say no to Tejas. Poison to every conference they have ever joined.
     

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