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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  • Boston College

    Votes: 32 10.3%
  • Cincinnati

    Votes: 19 6.1%
  • Connecticut

    Votes: 6 1.9%
  • Duke

    Votes: 21 6.7%
  • Georgia Tech

    Votes: 55 17.6%
  • Kansas

    Votes: 46 14.7%
  • Maryland

    Votes: 67 21.5%
  • Missouri

    Votes: 90 28.8%
  • North Carolina

    Votes: 39 12.5%
  • Notre Dame

    Votes: 208 66.7%
  • Oklahoma

    Votes: 78 25.0%
  • Pittsburgh

    Votes: 45 14.4%
  • Rutgers

    Votes: 40 12.8%
  • Syracuse

    Votes: 18 5.8%
  • Texas

    Votes: 121 38.8%
  • Vanderbilt

    Votes: 15 4.8%
  • Virginia

    Votes: 47 15.1%
  • Virginia Tech

    Votes: 62 19.9%
  • Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    Votes: 27 8.7%
  • Add some other school(s) not listed

    Votes: 25 8.0%

  • Total voters
    312
The last time Group of 5 teams were added to Power 5 leagues, Utah went to the PAC and Rutgers went to the B1G.

Utah is a force in the PAC. Rutgers is a joke in the B1G.

QED

So the PAC is weak ? I'm not sure what we're supposed to take from this.

But also not sure it's a great comparison... Rutgers was only in G5 for like a year after Big East imploded.
How do we talk about recent G5 additions and leave out TCU? If we're counting Big East remnants, don't know why we're excluding WVU, Louisville, and Pitt.

Interestingly, all these schools have been competitive in their new homes - except Rutgers, maybe Pitt.
Can we trade PSU for Pitt?
 
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this time. Next time you're hoping a different B1G school in that role would return the favor and keep the money in the family (maybe for you, maybe PSU, etc).

Your question is backwards, it's not "what's stopping me from shunning BTAA partners and choosing Stanford" but rather "if both options are good why not continue the mutually beneficial partnership" ?

It's also beneficial to have an arsenal of elite research schools working together.

Youre right that it's not always going to be tsun making the decisions. While they might swing the big dick in a lot of areas, there are plenty where the field is level with other schools in the B1G. Just off the top of my head vis-a-vis Ohio State, I'd include physics, chemical engineering, anything automotive, political science and certain area research centers (Russia/E. Europe, Middle Eastern and E. Asia spring to mind) and some where Ohio State swings the big dick, and tsun would most likely be looking to us for inclusion such as Astronomy and climate science.
 
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So catching those of us who aren't familiar with the academic side up to current state, what P5 schools would meet the B1G academic criteria?

No-Brainer Publics: UVA, UNC, GaTech, Tejas, UCLA, Cal, Washington, Colorado, Florida, Pitt
Borderline Publics: Mizzou, Kansas, UGA, aggy, Arizona, ISU, Utah

I'm sure I've overlooked one or two, but you see that when you take out the "will never happen" schools like the PAC and SEC members, the pickings get pretty slim.
 
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Within reasonable geographic distance: Georgia, Florida - OK, that's a real stretch geographically, UNC, Pitt, Georgia Tech, Duke, Syracuse, Toronto, McGill, Simon Fraser. Have to make a decision about the rouge and 3 downs vs four. Pitt and Syracuse really seem to be the only two schools that I think would be interested from an academic POV. Don't know what they'd think in terms of athletics. They wanted no part of Penn State in the Big East, can't imagine they'd be anxious to have them as partners again. BTW - Penn State's academic growth and rep has soared since admission to the Big Ten, something the cult blatantly ignores.
 
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Within reasonable geographic distance: Georgia, Florida - OK, that's a real stretch geographically, UNC, Pitt, Georgia Tech, Duke, Syracuse, Toronto, McGill, Simon Fraser. Have to make a decision about the rouge and 3 downs vs four. Pitt and Syracuse really seem to be the only two schools that I think would be interested from an academic POV. Don't know what they'd think in terms of athletics. They wanted no part of Penn State in the Big East, can't imagine they'd be anxious to have them as partners again. BTW - Penn State's academic growth and rep has soared since admission to the Big Ten, something the cult blatantly ignores.

That's because all things academic came from the wise and powerful leadership of Dearest Leader Pa Joe Un.
 
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Within reasonable geographic distance: Georgia, Florida - OK, that's a real stretch geographically, UNC, Pitt, Georgia Tech, Duke, Syracuse, Toronto, McGill, Simon Fraser. Have to make a decision about the rouge and 3 downs vs four. Pitt and Syracuse really seem to be the only two schools that I think would be interested from an academic POV. Don't know what they'd think in terms of athletics. They wanted no part of Penn State in the Big East, can't imagine they'd be anxious to have them as partners again. BTW - Penn State's academic growth and rep has soared since admission to the Big Ten, something the cult blatantly ignores.

I don't think Pitt would be concerned with the pedsters. They'd absolutely want it from a rivalry standpoint while realizing that the B1G isn't JoePed's old proposed Eastern Conference of which he would have been the de-facto Commissioner. To the contrary, I'd see the pedsters going to the mattresses to keep Pitt out.
 
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Here we go again....


TV ad rates FOX Sports have been able to pass on to its customers indicate the network is “all in” on Big Ten Live Sport Content now and in the future, BTM told Flugaur. Given that, both FOX Sports and the Big Ten Conference want more and are working in tandem to get it. The two believe there is ample opportunity to gain more content for the next media contract in order for both to succeed together. That’s where realignment begins and comes into play once again, with those two working in tandem in their attempt to gain more value for the league, the source said.

They’ll try to gain more said value by adding both Big 12 powers OU and Texas. They’ll target the two schools for addition in 2024-25.
 
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Here we go again....


This would solve the problem of a weak West Division and we could go back to a two team playoff - B1G vs SEC.

Clemson and ND could join UCF to form a new lower division or join the SEC and B1G rerespectively. USC can turn their stadium into a museum and lead tours of what was once the PAC. I will miss the Rose Bowl but at least we will have CFB down to two time zones.
 
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