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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

Discussion in 'College Football' started by Mike80, Jul 26, 2007.

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Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  1. Boston College

    29 vote(s)
    9.8%
  2. Cincinnati

    17 vote(s)
    5.7%
  3. Connecticut

    5 vote(s)
    1.7%
  4. Duke

    17 vote(s)
    5.7%
  5. Georgia Tech

    51 vote(s)
    17.2%
  6. Kansas

    46 vote(s)
    15.5%
  7. Maryland

    67 vote(s)
    22.6%
  8. Missouri

    89 vote(s)
    30.1%
  9. North Carolina

    30 vote(s)
    10.1%
  10. Notre Dame

    200 vote(s)
    67.6%
  11. Oklahoma

    80 vote(s)
    27.0%
  12. Pittsburgh

    43 vote(s)
    14.5%
  13. Rutgers

    38 vote(s)
    12.8%
  14. Syracuse

    16 vote(s)
    5.4%
  15. Texas

    124 vote(s)
    41.9%
  16. Vanderbilt

    13 vote(s)
    4.4%
  17. Virginia

    40 vote(s)
    13.5%
  18. Virginia Tech

    58 vote(s)
    19.6%
  19. Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    26 vote(s)
    8.8%
  20. Add some other school(s) not listed

    16 vote(s)
    5.4%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. BB73

    BB73 Loves Buckeye History Staff Member Bookie '16 & '17 Upset Contest Winner

    Wow.

    I'll try to be the first to talk about playoff implications after the potential collapse of the Big 12, this time around.

    Four power conferences remain. Four conference champs after the CCG are the playoff teams.

    Screw the committee, screw the eye test, screw Notre Dame if they're not in a conference. This would be a real 8-team playoff of the division winners.
     
  2. Best Buckeye

    Best Buckeye Pretending I'm a pleasant person is exhausting. Staff Member

    I say we do like Bama does and schedule their out of conference teams so we can be unbeaten too. We could use the 2nd,3rd, and scout team to play them.
    The Big 12 can still exist after we give them Rutgers, Maryland and a player to be named later.
     
    Last edited: Dec 7, 2018
  3. jwinslow

    jwinslow A MAN OF BETRAYED JUSTICE Staff Member Tourney Pick'em Champ

    It also undercuts the division inequality whining. 3 blue bloods, and even if the West champ is trash, that means you have the easiest "first round" of the playoffs.
     
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  4. JCOSU86

    JCOSU86 Go Bucks! Beat Wisconsin! (again) Staff Member

    Adding Texas and Oklahoma to our conference would effectively destroy the essence of who we are. I would hate that, but so much has happened already (the biggest of which in the lessening of the importance of the Rose Bowl, IMHO) that it wouldn't really matter anymore.
     
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  5. Dryden

    Dryden Sober as Sarkisian Staff Member Tech Admin

    Sweet, I look forward to Ohio State being the first team in the B1G East to get Texas and Oklahoma both as their crossover games the first two years because who cares how stupid the conference makes OSU's schedule, it's all about the benjamins.
     
  6. AuTX Buckeye

    AuTX Buckeye Beam me up, Mr. Speaker. Yahoo Pickem Champ Former Game Champion

    Tejas will definitely be BACK by then
     
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  7. Mike80

    Mike80 A MAN OF BETRAYED JUSTICE!

    True - but they've usually been the big boy in every conference they've joined.

    They would be one of 5 (Oklahoma, Ohio State, scUM, Penn State) in this proposed new B1G. They wouldn't have the clout over those like they would over the Baylor's and SMU's of the world.
     
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  8. Jaxbuck

    Jaxbuck I hate tsun ‘18 Fantasy Baseball Champ

    How so anymore than adding Rutgers and Maryland?

    I don't hate the idea overall from a football playoff perspective.

    The old Big 8 as the new B1G West vs the old Big 2 and Penn State as the B1G east.

    What would remain of the current B12 could join up with the AAC or something.
     
  9. ShowMeBuck

    ShowMeBuck You know what? Chicken butt.

    UT and OU to the Big 10. This is what I said in 2014.

    Culturally do I like that? Not really. But I don’t like the SEC bias either and this would be a seismic shift in power.

    A west which included UT, OU, Nebraska, Iowa, and Wiscy would be unreal and would renew Nebraska’s old rivalries.

    The Texas to Chicago to New York area media footprint would be a behemoth. I know money rules everything and that’s why I could see this being the ultimate goal. Making the Big 10 east so lopsided seemed weird in the short term but made sense if landing OU and UT was the long range plan.
     
  10. jwinslow

    jwinslow A MAN OF BETRAYED JUSTICE Staff Member Tourney Pick'em Champ

    Right now, Michigan still remains the pinnacle of most seasons. That would cease to be true unless OU/UT decline and UM ascends.

    Also, the instant OU joins the B1G, their very similar to OSU struggles will suddenly be a deal breaker (like they never were in the 00s).
     
  11. Jaxbuck

    Jaxbuck I hate tsun ‘18 Fantasy Baseball Champ

    The Game would never be anything but the pinnacle to me personally but I could see how the actual B1G CCG would start to overshadow The Game to some (I guess).

    Then again, The Game essentially becomes a first round playoff game on top of the rivalry aspect so I'm not 100% sold on it's diminishing.

    OU defensive struggles what you are referring to?
     
  12. Bucklion

    Bucklion Throwback Staff Member Former Premier League Champ

    If we go 16, the other conferences will go 16, and if we make a push for TX and OK, you can bet the SEC will too because they have A&M already.

    If we were to get TX and OU, I could see the SEC taking Kansas (for basketball and the border war) and maybe either Kansas State or Oklahoma State. Texas Tech is fucked because they’re in the middle of nowhere, no one wants Iowa State or Baylor (for different reasons), West Virginia would make more sense for the ACC, TCU isn’t really a big time player...which leaves Oklahoma State without bedlam (not much of a target), Kansas State which is meh, and Kansas for basketball.
     
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  13. ShowMeBuck

    ShowMeBuck You know what? Chicken butt.

    I’ll also add this. If the playoffs go to 8 and the Big 16 includes OU and UT then it is not very hard to imagine many years with 2 teams in the playoffs. Think about that.
     
  14. Bucklion

    Bucklion Throwback Staff Member Former Premier League Champ

    I could actually envision a scenario with 3 16 team leagues, where we got OU and Oklahoma State, the SEC gets Texas and Kansas, the ACC adds West Virginia and Notre Dame, and then the PAC 12 is left to figure out what leftovers they want to add to Colorado and Utah...could be BYU, Boise State, Texas Tech, Baylor, who knows. But the rest are AAC or MW fodder.
     
  15. Jaxbuck

    Jaxbuck I hate tsun ‘18 Fantasy Baseball Champ

    So what would you do with the B1G alignment then?

    Add OU and Texas to the west, who do you move back to the east?

    I say Purdue geographically speaking.

    B1G West
    Oklahoma
    Texas
    Nebraska
    Wisconsin
    Iowa
    Illinois
    Minny
    Northwestern

    B1G east
    OSU
    tsun
    Penn State
    Sparty
    Purdue
    IU
    Maryland
    Rutgers


    Gives each division 3 heavy's, 1-2 middle weights and 3-4 light weights

    Do you keep a 9 game schedule? If so the 2 crossover games every year need to be random, get rid of the 'OSU must play Nebraska every year" scheduling.

    Just my .02
     

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