Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

[ShowMeBuck]

So what would you do with the B1G alignment then?

Add OU and Texas to the west, who do you move back to the east?

I say Purdue geographically speaking.

B1G West
Oklahoma
Texas
Nebraska
Wisconsin
Iowa
Illinois
Minny
Northwestern

B1G east
OSU
tsun
Penn State
Sparty
Purdue
IU
Maryland
Rutgers


Gives each division 3 heavy's, 1-2 middle weights and 3-4 light weights

Do you keep a 9 game schedule? If so the 2 crossover games every year need to be random, get rid of the 'OSU must play Nebraska every year" scheduling.

Just my .02

That’s EXACTLY what I thought. Just move Purdue over to be with Indiana which makes sense.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Wow.

I'll try to be the first to talk about playoff implications after the potential collapse of the Big 12, this time around.

Four power conferences remain. Four conference champs after the CCG are the playoff teams.

Screw the committee, screw the eye test, screw Notre Dame if they're not in a conference. This would be a real 8-team playoff of the division winners.

Thinking more about this, I would still want to see some kind of "wildcard" option and be leery of auto bids for conference champs.

It would make me sick to see a 3-4 loss Pac12 champ in the playoffs while a 1 loss B1G/SEC team that lost the CCG is sitting at home.

 

[Bucklion]

So what would you do with the B1G alignment then?

Add OU and Texas to the west, who do you move back to the east?

I say Purdue geographically speaking.

B1G West
Oklahoma
Texas
Nebraska
Wisconsin
Iowa
Illinois
Minny
Northwestern

B1G east
OSU
tsun
Penn State
Sparty
Purdue
IU
Maryland
Rutgers


Gives each division 3 heavy's, 1-2 middle weights and 3-4 light weights

Do you keep a 9 game schedule? If so the 2 crossover games every year need to be random, get rid of the 'OSU must play Nebraska every year" scheduling.

Just my .02

No crossover games, fuck it. Well, no, but that would be better. Go back to 8, one crossover, rotated every season.

 

[Bucklion]

Also, all crossover games BEGIN conference play, so in the event of a rematch, maximum time has passed.

 

[LovelandBuckeye]

So what would you do with the B1G alignment then?

Add OU and Texas to the west, who do you move back to the east?

I say Purdue geographically speaking.

B1G West
Oklahoma
Texas
Nebraska
Wisconsin
Iowa
Illinois
Minny
Northwestern

B1G east
OSU
tsun
Penn State
Sparty
Purdue
IU
Maryland
Rutgers


Gives each division 3 heavy's, 1-2 middle weights and 3-4 light weights

Do you keep a 9 game schedule? If so the 2 crossover games every year need to be random, get rid of the 'OSU must play Nebraska every year" scheduling.

Just my .02

This is great and all but who would be Penn State's rival?

 

[Bucklion]

This is great and all but who would be Penn State's rival?

Maryland

 

[Bucklion]

This is great and all but who would be Penn State's rival?

Actually they play Sparty for a trophy, so they can end their season there

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

This is great and all but who would be Penn State's rival?

Penn State’s rival has always been, and will always be perspective.

 

[Oh8ch]

That’s EXACTLY what I thought. Just move Purdue over to be with Indiana which makes sense.

Agree.

Hard to believe this is serious talk, particularly from an academic perspective. But it would be the first step towards 4 super conferences with the championship games effectively making for an 8 team playoff.

Biggest problem would be how to accommodate teams like UCF over the long haul (Absorbing the entire Big 12 would take us to the full 64 teams). These emerging in growing markets are good for the financial health of the sport. That could be accommodated by rotating weaker teams out of conferences over time - but that would be a large pill for some.*

And ND can join a conference or go suck an egg.

*Another off the wall solution to the UCF issue where there was a very weak Division champ (such as NU this season) would be to declare them "unworthy", declare the champ of the other division the Conference champ and let them play the UCF of the moment to get to the final 4.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Agree.

Hard to believe this is serious talk, particularly from an academic perspective. But it would be the first step towards 4 super conferences with the championship games effectively making for an 8 team playoff.

Biggest problem would be how to accommodate teams like UCF over the long haul (Absorbing the entire Big 12 would take us to the full 64 teams). These emerging in growing markets are good for the financial health of the sport. That could be accommodated by rotating weaker teams out of conferences over time - but that would be a large pill for some.*

And ND can join a conference or go suck an egg.

*Another off the wall solution to the UCF issue where there was a very weak Division champ (such as NU this season) would be to declare them "unworthy", declare the champ of the other division the Conference champ and let them play the UCF of the moment to get to the final 4.

We should be able to enact the "unworthy" designation on the B1G east co champ this year (the one that was on the wrong end of 62 points)

 

[Buckeye doc]

I could actually envision a scenario with 3 16 team leagues, where we got OU and Oklahoma State, the SEC gets Texas and Kansas, the ACC adds West Virginia and Notre Dame, and then the PAC 12 is left to figure out what leftovers they want to add to Colorado and Utah...could be BYU, Boise State, Texas Tech, Baylor, who knows. But the rest are AAC or MW fodder.

Yep. Really leery of Tejas. Plus, we need more mullets in the B1G.

 

[JCOSU86]

How so anymore than adding Rutgers and Maryland?

I don't hate the idea overall from a football playoff perspective.

The old Big 8 as the new B1G West vs the old Big 2 and Penn State as the B1G east.

What would remain of the current B12 could join up with the AAC or something.

Nothing. Adding Maryland (a founding member of the ACC) and Rutgers (ouside of NYC $$$, why?) really made me shake my head.

If expansion is a MUST, then to me it would be Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri and Iowa State. They most closely match what the B1G is.

I realize I am the only person on earth who would want that.

 

[woofermazing]

I’ll also add this. If the playoffs go to 8 and the Big 16 includes OU and UT then it is not very hard to imagine many years with 2 teams in the playoffs. Think about that.

Yup, 2 b1g teams, notre dame, clemson, and 4 sec teams.

 

[kujirakira]

I say we do like Bama does and schedule their out of conference teams so we can be unbeaten too. We could use the 2nd,3rd, and scout team to play them.
The Big 12 can still exist after we give them Rutgers, Maryland and a player to be named later.

Nah id rather keep Rutgers and Maryland for the recruiting markets. So what if they're Illinois? Playing them, instead of shitty Indiana/Illinois/Iowa schools every year opens up a lot more recruiting turf.

 

[FCollinsBuckeye]