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Big Ten and other Conference Expansion

Discussion in 'College Football' started by Mike80, Jul 26, 2007.

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Which Teams Should the Big Ten Add? (please limit to four selections)

  1. Boston College

    29 vote(s)
    9.8%
  2. Cincinnati

    17 vote(s)
    5.7%
  3. Connecticut

    5 vote(s)
    1.7%
  4. Duke

    17 vote(s)
    5.7%
  5. Georgia Tech

    51 vote(s)
    17.2%
  6. Kansas

    46 vote(s)
    15.5%
  7. Maryland

    67 vote(s)
    22.6%
  8. Missouri

    89 vote(s)
    30.1%
  9. North Carolina

    30 vote(s)
    10.1%
  10. Notre Dame

    200 vote(s)
    67.6%
  11. Oklahoma

    80 vote(s)
    27.0%
  12. Pittsburgh

    43 vote(s)
    14.5%
  13. Rutgers

    38 vote(s)
    12.8%
  14. Syracuse

    16 vote(s)
    5.4%
  15. Texas

    124 vote(s)
    41.9%
  16. Vanderbilt

    13 vote(s)
    4.4%
  17. Virginia

    40 vote(s)
    13.5%
  18. Virginia Tech

    58 vote(s)
    19.6%
  19. Stay at 12 teams and don't expand

    26 vote(s)
    8.8%
  20. Add some other school(s) not listed

    16 vote(s)
    5.4%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. kujirakira

    kujirakira Senior

    The PAC is at 12 and has made no secret in adding 4 to be 16... eyeing a package deal for TTech and Texas. TTech is kinda Austin's directional yesman.

    None of those states have anyone worth recruiting. This is again why adding VA and UNC makes more sense.... though there's cultural issues there too.
    We're better off staying at 14 than adding any of those Wannabe12 filler schools.

    Hell no to OkSt... OU is bad enough.
    OkSt adds nothing. No markets. No recruits. Shit academics. They're another Iowa at best.
    The conference doesnt need more underwhelming shit teams in the West that have to import talent... and especially not ones outside AAU.
     
  2. kujirakira

    kujirakira Senior

    Better yet, can we just merge IU and Purdid? The University systems already have... then we could expand recruiting down to VA too
     
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  3. ShowMeBuck

    ShowMeBuck You know what? Chicken butt.

    Hahahaha. So true.
     
  4. Jaxbuck

    Jaxbuck I hate tsun ‘18 Fantasy Baseball Champ

    C’mon bro

    Live a little, have some fun

    Better than bitching about what’s wrong with the defense all goddamn day.
     
  5. gmen6981

    gmen6981 Div 1 Couch Tackling Champion.

    Common Decency.
     
  6. Honor&Glory

    Honor&Glory Paper,Rock, Scissors, Lizard, Spock!

    an interesting sidebar to this is Nebraska. they lost a big part of their Texas recruiting pipeline when they moved to the B1G. with Texas and OU in a new super sized B1G that would bring their main recruiting base back into the fold and I could see Corn being a major national player again. thoughts @alexhortdog95 ?

    of course, Tejas is going to have to jettison the Longhorn Network for this to happen.
     
  7. ORD_Buckeye

    ORD_Buckeye Wrong glass, Sir.

    Yes, and ESPN is going to have to let them go. Now, I know that espn loses millions on that network, but do they keep writing the checks to keep UT on the plantation and use that leverage to hopefully steer them towards a conference on the plantation (sec or acc)?
     
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  8. alexhortdog95

    alexhortdog95 Sad Frosty...

    Oklahoma is like the story of the family member that we had a falling out with over simple shit years ago, but still loved them. They get to play, and we need to renew that rivalry that went on for YEARS.

    But to help me with the F Texas call....

    F Tom Herman.
    F Tim Beck.
    F Texas.

    That about answer that one? :biggrin:
     
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  9. The Big 12 has a much better brand name, so they'd probably cherry pick 2-4 AAC schools. Adding any of Cincy, SMU, Memphis, Temple, Houston, and UConn to the Big 12 leftovers would make for a pretty good basketball conference.
     
  10. JCOSU86

    JCOSU86 Go Bucks! Beat Wisconsin! (again) Staff Member

    Not entirely fair. My daughter is a senior and is doing the whole college search thing. Depending on your source, Iowa is above A LOT of schools. US News and World Report has them as a pretty decent school. They are no Cal Berkley, but they aren't like the banjo pickers either. Same with Michigan State. I was surprised.

    Edit: The B1G is also a Academic Conference. Nebraska needs to improve, but the rest meet some criteria I don't understand. Calling @ORD_Buckeye
     
  11. kujirakira

    kujirakira Senior

    I meant athletically, tv subs, recruiting... they're another Iowa.
    Academically, Iowa hands it to them.
    But that was my point... OkSt adds nothing.
     
  12. ORD_Buckeye

    ORD_Buckeye Wrong glass, Sir.

    I think most people would group the schools as follows:

    Chicago (if you still consider them)

    Northwestern

    tsun

    Ohio State-Illinois-Wisconsin-Minnesota-ped state group

    Everyone else except Nebraska group

    Nebraska

    I'm not sure where Maryland goes. In our group or in the group below us.

    As for the proposed B12 schools, Texas would go in our group (sorry shaggy), and all the rest would be on the short bus with Corn.
     
  13. kujirakira

    kujirakira Senior

    Id put Wis, Ill, Md, and Mi together. Us with Rutgers, Minn, and Voldemort. Everyone else. Corn last.
    A few of their schools would be with Indiana group (ISU... uhh... ok maybe just 1)... but we dont need more filler.

    My criteria...
    1 are they cfb royalty?
    2 do they expand conf borders into fertile recruiting ground?
    3 do they bring added tv revenue?
    4 academics / AAU member?
    5 cultural fit?

    1 or 2 get your foot in the door and are fairly cut&dry yes/no... either of those automatically implies 3 as well.
    4 and 5 are harder to quantify... but, for me, means hard no for the likes of Texas.
    It's worth noting ND fails the 1/2 test for me (dont need more presence in IN)... but 4/5 would also be a fail.
     
  14. zincfinger

    zincfinger Gert Frobe-approved

    I'd probably put Maryland there. I would definitely put Purdue and Rutgers in the group of "very good state schools", and probably would rate them higher than Minnesota.
     
  15. ORD_Buckeye

    ORD_Buckeye Wrong glass, Sir.

    Purdue's reputation rests solely on engineering. Minnesota is a much stronger university overall. I'd put Crab Cake in our group and Rutgers in the one below us with Purdue, Sparty. Iowa and IU.

    The MUP report is a solid snapshot of the depth and breadth of a university's quality undergraduate, grad, faculty, research and financial resources. And it clearly shows that we (and Minny) are easily equal to Wiscy and Illinois. Unfortunately, it also shows that tsun is clearly the top public and pretty much in it's own grouping.

    mup.umass.edu/sites/default/files/mup-2015-top-american-research-universities-annual-report.pdf
     

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