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Big Ten Conference Divisions

Discussion in 'Buckeye Football' started by MililaniBuckeye, Jun 11, 2010.

  1. jlb1705

    jlb1705 hipster doofus Staff Member Bookie

    Some of those are just as sharp as the B1G logo they've been using the last couple months.

    I can't help but be amused however by the deluge of crappy ones though. So many people were outraged by how lousy they thought the new official logo was, and then in attempting to prove how easy it would be to come up with something better, they end up creating something infinitely worse.

    Some of these people should work for Pizza Hut. With as many ways as they figured out to force a '12' into their lousy logo, maybe they can also help devise more ways to stuff cheese into a lousy pizza.
  2. Saw31

    Saw31 High Seas Rogue

    I like that one...
  3. Muck

    Muck Enjoy Every Sandwich Staff Member

    Someone suggested it was time to start a thread for the new division alignment, and since we already have one from last time around...


    Yesterday I joked about using pods for the 14 team B1G but after looking at it more closely the idea is growing on me.

    You would have two 4 team fixed pods that are never paired up:
    Ohio State, Wisconsin, Illinois, Indiana
    TSUN, Sparty, Northwestern, Purdue

    And two 3 team floating pods that rotate between the two fixed pods (and likewise re never paired up directly):
    Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota
    PSU, Maryland, Rutgers

    Each team in the fixed pods would have a single locked opponent from the opposing pod:
    Ohio State - TSUN
    Wisconsin - Sparty
    Illinois - Northwestern
    Indiana -Purdue
    The teams in the floating pods would not need a locked opponent as they will face all of the teams in the opposing pod each year.

    The teams in the floating pods would play every team on the conference a minimum of two out of four years. The teams in the fixed pods would face every team in the conference two out of four years except for their non-locked opponents in the opposing pod who they would face four years out of every six. No team would have any opponent off of their schedule for more than two years.

    Initially your divisions would look like:
    Ohio State, Wisconsin, Illinois, Indiana, Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota
    TSUN, Sparty, Northwestern, Purdue, PSU, Maryland, Rutgers

    After two years they would become:
    Ohio State, Wisconsin, Illinois, Indiana, PSU, Maryland, Rutgers
    TSUN, Sparty, Northwestern, Purdue, Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota
    Then every two years they would alternate back and forth.

    The teams in the floating pods would travel to the far side of the conference more often but for the western teams (Nebraska, Iowa & Minnesota) that means they would have more opportutnies to play in front of recruits in the fertile mid-atlantic region. PSU would also be compensated by always having their two new local buddies as pod mates.

    Under such a setup Ohio State's schedule would look something like:
    The Buckeyes would have a home & home with every team in the league every six years.

    While teams in the floating pods would look like:
    It would only take four years for Nebraska to face every team home & away.

    Of course it's very unlikely that the above would ever actually happen but it does have some interesting advantages over the traditional 7 & 7 divisions.
    Last edited: Nov 21, 2012
  4. Yertle

    Yertle Pounding out aggression, turns into obsession

    I'm too hungover to try to understand that. But it appears you're saying Michigan and MSU wouldn't play every year? Hmmmm, doubt that's a solution.

    I just think you HAVE to put Michigan and OSU together. Really really stupid to have THE game one week and then the CCG with both schools repeating the next week. Sure, it's not going to happen all the time, but it would have happened a few times in the last decade and is even a possibility (mathematically, although it requires a Michigan win over the Bucks... not likely) this year. THis happening completely diminishes the importance of THE game. STUUUUUPID. Then you take the Dinardo route and think about moving the game earlier in the year. NO. Even worse. Only logical solution is to put the schools in the same division. Get rid of this LEaders/Legends crap and just make it East/West.

    East: Rutgers, Maryland, PSU (unless we can kick them out), OSU, Indiana, Michigan, MSU
    West: Illinois, NW, Purdue, Minnesota, Wisky, Nebraska, Iowa

    Both divisions have some power and would match up nicely. Just get it right this time, Delaney.
  5. Muck

    Muck Enjoy Every Sandwich Staff Member

    How in the world does putting Sparty & TSUN in the same pod lead you to believe they wouldn't play every year?! It's pretty clear that they would always be in the same division.

    The current divisions would argue against what HAS to be done.

    I agree, but it's plain that is what TPTB want.

    Again the powers that be have made it clear that they do not want the four traditional kings in the same division. It's a non-starter.

    Furthermore I do not want Ohio State to get stuck stuck with all the eastern schools. I've said it before and I've said it again 'FUCK Paterno's eastern conference wet dream'. I want Ohio State to continue to play traditional rivals as often as possible rather than getting shuffled off with all the new kids. Unfortunately pods is the only way to do that. Going with a straight E/W split Ohio State will very rarely get to play traditional Big Ten teams in the other division. Fuck. That. Noise.
  6. Yertle

    Yertle Pounding out aggression, turns into obsession

    Which is why I started my sentence with "I think"...
  7. Abenaki

    Abenaki Ambitious but rubbish.

    What if they did something like this:


    Ohio State
    Michigan State


    Penn State

    Splits up the "kings", fairly evenly balanced keeps all the important matchups on a yearly basis and it would piss off the Pedsters because they have to travel more.
  8. Muck

    Muck Enjoy Every Sandwich Staff Member

    Forcing the farthest west & farthest east schools together is likely a non-starter because of the reasons you mentioned (not just PSU but other schools wouldn't like it either).

    Regardless of how you divide 2 seven team divisions you are setting up a situation where some teams will very rarely see each other. That is the advantage that pods give it allows all the teams in the league to play one another more often. The disadvantage of course is that it is confusing to casual fans.
  9. Abenaki

    Abenaki Ambitious but rubbish.

    The geography is against it, but the geography was their last concern the first time around. Unless they've made any comments to suggest otherwise, competitive balance and rivalries were the top concerns and it addresses both of those.

    I do like to pods...aside from the likely reality that Ohio State and Michigan end up on opposite sides again. And, either way, this is likely temporary as we all know 14 is not the end game.
  10. I can't see them putting Maryland and Rutgers in the same division. Everyone is going to want a game in NYC or DC every other year at least.
  11. Muck

    Muck Enjoy Every Sandwich Staff Member

    Clearly just more evidents of the B1G's prejudice against PSU.
  12. JBaney45

    JBaney45 Junior

    This is absolutely the way it should be, but of course they will push to keep OSU and Michigan separate for their own gain.

    My biggest concern with expansion is the greater likelihood of the other schools pushing us into lose our identity/traditions. Gerry Dinardo was on the other day whining about how having the OSU-Michigan game be the last game of the regular season was "bad for the Big Ten". F*** him and quite frankly f*** the Big Ten, they intentionally set up the divisions this way to get an OSU-Mich title game but you know the second that comes to fruition they are going to be bitching about the rematch.
  13. Fuck michigan. Wrong thread? Don't give a fuck
    Muck likes this.
  14. Muck

    Muck Enjoy Every Sandwich Staff Member

    Never the wrong thread.
  15. sflbuck

    sflbuck Junior

    I think you are going to see 16 teams and pods before Rutgers or Maryland play a conference football game.

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