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BP'ers get all nerdy about weather (split from Poll thread)

Discussion in 'Reference Locker' started by RCSooner1974, Oct 6, 2018.

  1. Nutriaitch

    Nutriaitch Retired Super Hero

    didn’t look up the actual temps.
    just going on memory of that week.
    moving practices indoors, players and fans commenting on the cold.
  2. BuckeyeNation27

    BuckeyeNation27 Goal Goal USA! Staff Member

    seems like before Jan 4 was a lot colder. I think I got to NO that Friday the 4th. I just remember wandering around getting sweaty and hoping the girlies we were with didn't notice.
  3. Nutriaitch

    Nutriaitch Retired Super Hero

    could be.
    weather changes every half a day or so here in the winter.

    but as mentioned early, game was in a dome, so not really a good example to use when discussing weather.
  4. Jaxbuck

    Jaxbuck I hate tsun ‘18 Fantasy Baseball Champ

    so one game, one time (maybe) somehow invalidates the premise that the southern states and So Cal are much warmer than the Midwest?

    kujirakira and colobuck79 like this.
  5. Nigel Tufnel

    Nigel Tufnel Choking on vomit

    Yes it’s warmer. And much nicer place to host bowl games. Buckeyes are just fine playing in warm weather locations.

    Plus, BBQ and brisket with some dry run.

    None of that fucking Carolina sweet shit shit on my BBQ mmmkay?
    Fungo Squiggly likes this.
  6. BuckeyeNation27

    BuckeyeNation27 Goal Goal USA! Staff Member

    The Buckeyes are more than fine playing when it's cold as nuts and snowing, too. Some schools aren't build to survive that weather, while Ohio State has to be...just in case.

    Reminds me of TCU kicking Minnesota's ass in Texas in mid-September, and then our offense sputtering during a snow storm.....and having to hear dipshits say TCU didn't struggle with Minnesota.
  7. Nutriaitch

    Nutriaitch Retired Super Hero

    wasn’t the point i was trying to make.

    i was saying that the south is typically not HOT and humid for bowl season.
    Buckeyeskickbuttocks likes this.
  8. kujirakira

    kujirakira Senior

    I dont think anyone is confused on that point..

    But it also conveniently ignores the fact that those were Exhibition games. The final polls came out before the bowl games.
    Now it's a post season... not the Pro Bowl in Hawaii for kicks. So why should certain teams get permanent home field advantage in those games?
    Ryan36_1 likes this.
  9. Nigel Tufnel

    Nigel Tufnel Choking on vomit

    Unless we move to actual home games, it would be a tough draw. While I get that Buckeye fans would fill stadiums in shitty weather, that's not true of a lot of teams.
  10. Gatorubet

    Gatorubet Loathing All Things Georgia

  11. Gatorubet

    Gatorubet Loathing All Things Georgia

    While I agree whole-heartedly, I do think that the slow motion element was needed to make it Palme D'Or worthy.
  12. Gatorubet

    Gatorubet Loathing All Things Georgia


    Well, this really is the meat of the discussion, although it's fun to poke each other about the ancillary issues. Kujirakira has narrowed the issue quite well.

    So legit question to come. As someone said a few posts back, the B1G teams have to be able to play the end of the year games in shitty cold part of the poor decision making not to move south to warmer winters once the wheel was invented. (here, I paraphrase)

    So what seems to be the crux of this question is the analysis of how much the cold weather preparedness - I dunno - detracts from your warm weather performance abilities.

    I mean, if having the ability to smack each other in frozen combat in temperatures that disfavor the forward pass, what percentage of your overall team skills are you giving up by retaining cold weather capability? If that cripples your warm weather performance, then you have a point. If your ability to play in a place like the Rose Bowl is hurt by the fact that you have a structural need to ram into each other like Musk Ox in February, there must be some kind of way to articulate and measure that. Because if you are equally adept at both, then you are not in any way disadvantaged. And if you are not disadvantaged to any great extent, the lack of playing Southern teams in the north in winter in no way disadvantages you for ranking. To be sure, southern teams would not know what the hell to do in the cold, how to handle the ball, how to keep their feet and cut, and the list goes on.

    So I know how to identify the disadvantage of the south/warm playing in the cold. I admit it. But how is the north disadvantaged by playing in the south by virtue of having to play a game or to in the cold? Punishing fullbacks do not work in the south when they run? Tell Nutria to break it to Jacob Hester. Road grader O-linemen do not work as well on grass in September as they do in late November/December? That did not seem to stop Nebraska back in the day in the warm bowls. C'mon guys - let me know the disadvantages of having a cold weather game skill set, at least insofar as it hurts your warm weather game skill set. Tell me why Ted Ginn is not as fast in September because you have some bad ass fullback on the team who will do fine in the cold.
  13. kujirakira

    kujirakira Senior

    I dont find that a compelling argument to give SEC, Little10, and SoCal permanent advantages. If their fans dont travel... sounds like a personal problem to me.

    I think thats short sighted. Teams gain advantages being close to home... familiar places, ease of access, timezone changes. The weather is one part.
    Playing in 'your weather' is both an advantage to you and a disadvantage to the traveling opponent. Why shouldn't Big schools enjoy that occasional advantage after decades of 1sided affairs?
    Why shouldn't we get to see Miami struggle with some adversity for once?
  14. Buckeyeskickbuttocks

    Buckeyeskickbuttocks Z --> Z^2 + c Staff Member

  15. jwinslow

    jwinslow A MAN OF BETRAYED JUSTICE Staff Member Tourney Pick'em Champ

    You're right.

    Mine is the more reasonable option and wildly overdue sliver of postseason involvement for the north. Yours is the only way I'll get on board with expanding the playoff field.

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