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Browns - Don't Trade Up!

Discussion in 'Professional Football' started by StanfordLaw, Mar 29, 2004.

  1. ashlandbuck

    ashlandbuck Banned


    Why do you hate Cleveland so much?
    My wife and I enjoy the town. Every now and then, We'll spend an entire day in Cleveland. Shopping. Eating in little Italy. Going to the natural history museum.

    The deal you are wanting to make is slightly unbalanced when you consider the fact that there are how many options for the Lions on draft day?
    It would have to be something like you agreeing to not post for six months to my one month. Even then, I don't like the odds.
    I'll have to get back with you on that one.

    As far as the Browns trading up to the #1 spot. I didn't mention that. I don't think anyone else did as well.
    There is one way that it would be possible. The Browns give their #1 and #2 for the Chargers #1. If I were the chargers I'd do that in a heartbeat. The Chargers would end up with picks 7, 33 and 40. If any team in the top 12 of the draft would make that trade to the Chargers, they'd be crazy not to do it.
    They are in the same situation as the Browns. They need a lot and an extra pick would help.
    If the Browns trade up, I'll be pissed. If anything, they should trade down if Gallery and Taylor are gone.

    I just read some comments by the Lions GM Matt Millan.
    He made a couple references to having a great TE and a great safety.
    A lot of rumors have him leaning towards Taylor or Winslow.
    Last edited: Mar 31, 2004
  2. RAMdrvr1

    RAMdrvr1 All Galaxy '14 NCAA Pick'em Champ

    Ashlandbuck, I don't "hate" it up here. I just can't stand the way people treat each other up here. And before you say that it's like that everywhere, it's not. My job has taken me to NC, Ala., Indiana, Georgia, and (yes, it's true) Mich.. Plus I have lived all over Ohio (love the rural Ashland area and Ashland Coll., by the way). Since I have been up here, I have lived in Cleveland, Euclid, and now Willoughby, and there is like a cloud of doom (quit laughing) over this entire area. Think about just their pro sports teams for a minute. They KNOW that they are going to lose, and their play reflects that. This is the choke city of the country. Well, the people have the same attitude, and anyone who doesn't they are determined to bring them down with them.

    Before I ever lived up here, I would come up here for sporting events and a few concerts. Most of those times I really enjoyed myself. But I was only here for a few hours. So as hard as I fight it, sometimes this area shows in me , too. And I really hate when that happens. But...
  3. Brutus1

    Brutus1 Don't be penurious, donate to the BP Spring Dr.

    No, while they're not nearly as dominant as the first three, one of them (say Woods) combined with Gallery in the first, would be much more dominating for the team than, say Fitz and the best available o-lineman in the second.

    You don't need to be a dominating college player to equate to success in the NFL as a wr.

    I guess if the Raiders did'nt have more holes than a pound of Swiss, then they could just pick Fitz at 2 and just forget it.

    With old man river still running the show, it could be anyone.

    I'm not a fan of the Browns, but their picks since they've be re-incarnated have been putrid. It's to early to grade Faine, but he may work out. I seem to remember alot of Browns fans not liking the pick. It's never sexy to draft o-line in the first, but it's darn well necessary, especially for them.

    All their first round picks seemed good at the time, but they never really developed. Couch may have been better if he ever had a decent o-line. C. Brown should be cut. You can get that production from a 7th rounder. Gerard Warren will have a good game, then fall of the face of the earth for 3 games.
    Green ?
    :oh: :io:
  4. ashlandbuck

    ashlandbuck Banned


    I do understand the "loser" tag that goes along with that city.
    I am not the fanatic about their pro teams that I once was.
    The Browns just aren't the same since returning.

    Glad to hear you like our area down here. I'm actually from a small village just south of Ashland. We like it as well.


    I agree with your view of the Browns draft picks. They've been horrible.
    I'm not sold on Coach, even with a good line.

    My problem with the Fiane pick was the fact that they already had a very good center in Dave Wohlabaugh(sp?). The guy moved on and is starting for the St. Louis Rams I believe. With all the holes that team had, why draft a center #1 and release a solid Veteran center? An absolute asinine move.
    Then Butch picks a linebacker from southwest northeast Texas state tech (?) when he could've solved his safety problem with Mike Doss. But wait, It gets better! In the third round he picks a kid that most pro scouts are projecting as a corner and Butch drafts him to play Safety! The kid is undersized and out of position at safety.
    Last but not least he drafts a long snapper fifth that would've went undrafted.
    I think Butch wants to show everyone how clever he is with some of his picks and instead he displays his ingorance of the pro game.
    The front office knows this and that's why they went after Ron Wolf.
  5. Brutus1

    Brutus1 Don't be penurious, donate to the BP Spring Dr.

    While I'm not a Browns fan, I can appreciate their frustration over drafting, including all the Butch drafts. With the talent available in this draft, it's virtually impossible for Butch to screw the 1st round up this year. I do think using the first on one of the QB's, no matter how enticing, is a mistake.

    If I'm Butch, and Northcutts' agent gave me that ultimatum, I'd purposely hold onto him for the season, he'll eventually come around.
    :oh: :io:
  6. BuckeyeSoldier

    BuckeyeSoldier 2 time Reigning BuckeyePlanet Poker Champion

    as a bengals fan who used to REALLY hate the browns im gonna give out the sympathy now that you are where we were..
  7. ashlandbuck

    ashlandbuck Banned


    I can't agree that the Browns have reached the depths that the Bengals have.
    The Browns were just in the playoffs in 2002.
    The Bengals had been the laughing stock of the Nfl for about a decade.
    Mike Brown is a notorious cheap skate while the Browns have always had an owner that was willing to spend money.
    It's just fortunate for Bengal fans that there is now a restrictive salary cap which has allows Mike Brown to compete.(which is a good thing)


    I agree on the Qb situation.
    They may need to draft one but could wait until the 3rd or 4th round and hope he develops as do many of the middle round QB's.
    My preference is:
    If Both are gone then I'd try to package Northcutt in a deal and trade down for an extra pick or two.

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