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Buckeyes Leaving Early

Discussion in 'Buckeye Football' started by flybuckeye, Dec 17, 2004.

  1. flybuckeye

    flybuckeye Sophmore

    Per Dispatch, Holmes, Hawk, Salley, and Schlegel have all petitioned the NFL advisory committee about there draft status for coming out early. We all know that Hawk and Holmes said they're coming back, but the other two haven't addressed it publicly.
  2. osugrad21

    osugrad21 Capo Regime Staff Member

    All that means is they are getting an evaluation of their stock...

    Gives them a better idea of where they stand.

    Nothing to worry about
  3. AkronBuckeye

    AkronBuckeye Banned

    Just my 2 cents BUT....

    I always was under the impression that all "College Seniors to be" Asked what their draft status is / would be.....

    I remember seeing a list of last years seniors to be and there were Hundreds of names on it... But only a small portion of them went through with it.....
  4. daddyphatsacs

    daddyphatsacs Let the cards fall...

    This is pretty standard, and nothing to worry about. The only guy that makes me wonder a bit is Schlegel because he is married, and transferred due to OSU's LB reputation and what will get him to the NFL. Kind of a looking out for the family situation. That being said, I think he will stay simply because his stock will go through the roof next season playing alongside one, potentially two, all americans. Not to mention I would expect that he would love a crack at a Big Ten/National title.

    Hell if I was in their situation I would peek my head out and see what the NFL scouts have to say about me, that way I would know what to improve on the next season.
  5. RugbyBuck

    RugbyBuck Our church has no bells.

    Nothing wrong with finding out where you stand. As to Salley and Schegel, they won't be high enough picks to warrant coming out. Salley still needs to work on tackling and coverage (he could be like Thomas Davis was this year, if he comes back) and Schegel needs to prove he can play a full year in the Big 10 at a high level. They both are potentially high picks eventually, but not yet.
  6. AKAK

    AKAK Well, that's like hypnotizing chickens. Staff Member Tech Admin

    The other reason they won't project high is position, obviously too.

    Safeties are a dime a dozen... and what's Schlegel going to project as? A 3-4 ILB? Not exactly the top of the salary food chain either.
  7. flybuckeye

    flybuckeye Sophmore

    I'm not worried, just found it interesting that neither has said they're coming back for sure. Could be that they haven't been asked publicly so that's why there is no comment. If they tear up the combine they could see their stock rise heavely on potential alone. Personally, I see them both coming back. I think if anybody had the potential to leave early, aside from Hawk and Holmes, its Carpenter.
  8. KevinBuck

    KevinBuck Gave up the ghost

    I think your hunch is right, that Salley/Schlegel haven't been asked publicly about leaving early because there's no real possibility of it happening. Neither is likely to be a first-day selection at this point, IMO, and both would benefit greatly from another year at OSU. I'll be shocked if any Buckeyes leave early after this season.

    Isn't the combine only for players who have actually declared for the draft?
  9. osugrad21

    osugrad21 Capo Regime Staff Member

    They don't go to the combine for this assessment
  10. Alan

    Alan Banned

    as daddyphat stated perfectly....

    schlegal is the only one that is a possibility for the reasons daddy mentioned....
  11. flybuckeye

    flybuckeye Sophmore

    In past years NFL scouts have come to OSU to have the players tested. The juniors with potential are usually tested also. A couple of years ago junior Drew Carter ran a 4.26 40 in front of scouts, that's when his hype started.

    I don't think Schlegel being married has anyting to do with him and the draft. Being 25 yrs old when the 2006 draft starts could possibly, but I also doubt that.
  12. I don't think any of them would project in the first round besides Hawk and maybe Holmes. I think if they come back all of their stock will rise, and they will be very successful next year on the field.
  13. buckzip

    buckzip Reeking with awesomeness

    I have a feeling that Schlegel would be told to stay in school.
  14. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    Out of those four, here's where I'd see them in the draft should they declare themselves eligible:

    Hawk - Late 1st, early 2nd round
    Holmes - Early/mid 2nd round
    Salley - 5th or 6th round
    Schlegel - 6th or 7th round

    The only one I see whose early departure would be financially similar as if he remained through his senior year is Hawk. A.J. will probably gain only 10 draft positions by staying his senior year...but that could still prove to be a big chunk of change within the 1st round. Holmes could gain as as much as 20-30 positions, working his way into the mid/late 1st round, with a great senior year. Both Salley and Schlegel should be able to gain a full round by staying, barring injury.
  15. powerlifter

    powerlifter ▪█───────█

    Sometimes these nicknames can confuse things...

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