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Cable - Cord Cutting

Discussion in 'Open Discussion (Work-safe)' started by Mac, Mar 4, 2016.

  1. Mac

    Mac That's a pain in the buns

    Anyone cut the cable cord and move to streaming everything?

    I was looking at buying my own modem, HD antenna's, and Amazon firesticks for our TV's.

    On top of the above I was looking at subscribing to Hulu+ & Sling TV. Only thing that sucks is I won't get all of my live sports.

    Anyone have any experience with the above? Thoughts/suggestions?

    Thanks!
     
  2. AuTX Buckeye

    AuTX Buckeye Beam me up, Mr. Speaker. '14 Yahoo Pickem Champ Former Game Champion

    Did it last year... wife & i haven't looked back... we have Hulu+ (barely use it), Amazon, Netflix, and HBO Now. we have an HD antenna and get all the major broadcast networks crystal clear. Its great the TV antennas are about 15 miles away so good.

    We did sling tv... it blew chunks we canceled it. It didn't work half the time.. missed 50% of the Va tech game because of that. right now we're borrowing a login for ESPN.
     
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  3. jwinslow

    jwinslow It's not the perfection but the direction Staff Member

    This is exactly what I've done:

    Equipment:

    - SlingTV subscription for ESPN access, local TV
    - Mohu Antenna + Tablo TV + external HD for infrequent DVR usage
    - Hulu & Netflix subscriptions
    - Rokus for living room, bedroom and guest room (stream thru PC in office)

    - HDTV living room
    - 27" PC monitor on side table in living room - marital bliss. Game, watch sports, or have random SEC game on in background.
    - Old school TV in bedroom to make low-def movies look good

    Sports:

    The main downside is the loss of the BTN, though they're working on a standalone package from what I've read. Your only option here would be to borrow a login from a friend that pays for cable. Missing out on BTN was easier to stomach this year with such a weak basketball team :lol:

    Also note, I don't think a cable-subscriber BTN login gets you access to all live content, just like some ESPN content is not visible on WatchESPN (or it is on one device but not another). This problem became less frequent on ESPN over the years and I imagine the same will be true for BTN, especially as their package is developed.

    Access to ESPN programming is a must as a huge college football fan. Being able to stream that to the TV, my second screen (I've preached constantly about the value of this), tablet or smartphone is huge. I'm also under no compulsion to watch it live if the wife and I have other plans. The only inconvenience is having to wait for the event to finish to watch the game on the WatchESPN app, but this is a rare problem (usually we're gone for the whole game).

    SlingTV has some nice a la carte add-ons, like the SEC network and others, but no BTN. This is likely because they're creating their own gateway. The B1G may be stodgy but their network is cutting edge and there will be a subscription model (for all sports). The problem is how long we'll have to wait for it to be ready for launch.

    I like having the local TV stations via antenna but almost never use it. I bought it in October. We've literally used it a half dozen times, B1G CCG, NFL playoffs, super bowl and an O'Bama speech. Now if I were an NFL nut (and not a numb Redskins fan), that would probably be much higher.

    Consumption habits:

    Ever since cancelling cable, I find my consumption habits have changed drastically. Last decade, we used to watch a ton of shows and frankly the options were much better: Office, Chuck, Community, 30 Rock, Parks & Rec, Monk, Psych, Burn Notice, Fringe, House, NCIS, Arrested Development, Colbert Report, Daily Show before Jon became Taos, cartoons before they wore out (South Park, American Dad, Family Guy)). etc.

    In the past few years when the above were gone (or really weak), I found that we watched some alright shows like Suits, Covert Affairs, NCIS LA and felt compelled to keep up to avoid a painful backlog to slog through. Since cutting the cord, I've had zero interest in watching shows like this. We still watch NCIS via CBS.com plugged into a laptop, but once that show dies this fall, we'll have zero shows.

    My wife and I had very similar tastes and watched shows together. This meant that when I wanted to play a video game, it would keep her from watching these shows (or be forced to watch them twice). Now we only watch shows when we feel like it. NCIS is the only show we share, though we do rewatch epic shows together like Psych, The IT Crowd, Better Off Ted and many classic sitcoms (Seinfeld, Raymond, Bernie Mac, Malcolm, 70s show). Our Hulu & Netflix subscription means that my wife can binge watch tons of great old shows (X-Files, FNL), girly shows (Gilmore Girls, Felicity) and go back and watch more recent shows she missed (Bones, Flashpoint, Once Upon a Time). Likewise I can watch shows she hates like Star Trek TNG, Seinfeld (she has very few flaws, but between this and hating some great, obscure Bill Murray comedies, there are challenges in marriage :lol:).
     
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  4. jwinslow

    jwinslow It's not the perfection but the direction Staff Member

    Old pricing:

    110+ - DirecTV* (one DVR). Yes it started out cheaper, and I could threaten occasionally to drop this, but why?
    50 - TimeWarner high speed internet (50 down, 2 up?) - It's time to call back, threaten to cancel and drop it from 65 to 45ish before tax.
    08 - Netflix
    --------------
    168 - month

    New pricing:

    20 - SlingTV
    50 - Internet
    08 - Hulu (not plus)
    08 - Netflix
    00 - Tablo (you could call it $20/month for 1 year to pay for equipment)
    ---------------
    86 - month

    Saving 82/mo, almost $1,000 / yr.

    Plenty of room to add a BTN package when it comes.

    * Even if you were bundling, that web/tv total would still be north of 100. Given how awful TWC is, there was no choice (though sometimes promos forced me to subscribe against my will to TWC then come back to DTV later).
     
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  5. exhawg

    exhawg Self Mythologizing Monster Staff Member

    The wife and I have very different taste in show for the most part. We have a few nights a week where we catch up on "our shows" Blindspot, Limitless, Blacklist, and a couple others, but I spend the rest of the week in the man cave watching the Cavs, my premium cable shows, or the Comic book garbage that I like. There are 2 major reasons I haven't been able (probably won't be able) to cut the cord. Sports (Buckeye football and Cavs), and all the Disney/Nick Jr crap that my kids watch. I guess Amazon has a lot of their own kid shows and the older Nick Jr catalog, but the only way we get access to the Disney shows they like the most is because we have Dish. If I could go with Sling TV with the kid addon and get Fox Sports Go I could cut the cord, it would just be more of a pain. If we end up moving closer to my in-laws I could just go over there whenever the Bucks are on BTN to at least cover that one. Would be nice to save the $80 a month I give Dish, but I would still be paying $25 for Sling and at least $10 more a month to upgrade my Internet. It seems like more networks would embrace streaming since it's really the only way to force you to watch ads.
     
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  6. Mac

    Mac That's a pain in the buns

    Sounds like all I will need is a login from a friend being bent over by the cable companies. I do need to watch my Cavs and hockey on NBCSN

    @jwinslow have you had any issues with Sling like what AuTx?

    Our 1yr pricing with UVerse ends in May. Going from $120 to north of $170. Yeah no way it should be that much.

    I'll be switching to WOW for Internet though. They have better pricing for higher speeds vs UVerse.

    I've also been looking at Modems too so I won't have that lovely rental fee per month.
     
  7. DoctorWho

    DoctorWho Geronimo

    Why not download everything and setup a PLEX server on your PC?
     
  8. jwinslow

    jwinslow It's not the perfection but the direction Staff Member

    The interesting thing is to some extent they've allowed borrowing in order to track what people are watching, and if it's shared they're tracking multiple people.
    I had enough issues with WatchESPN streaming that I stuck with the local antenna for streaming local stations.
    They'll learn when they're dead, like Blockbuster did.
    Check on compatibility with your new service but yes that's something everyone should do.
     
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  9. jwinslow

    jwinslow It's not the perfection but the direction Staff Member

    Obviously the legality and theft is part of the consideration, but I can't believe I left that out of my setup:

    Plex server running on my Skylake PC
    - My movie and TV collection ripped (not pirated, though that's the most common way Plex is used)
    ----> This is why I like my CRT TV in the bedroom, b/c my large DVD collection looks great in 480p. It looks acceptable on my 720p HDTV in the living room. I have zero interest that TV in upgrading to 4k anytime soon and making the majority of great video content look horrendous.
    ----> (before upgrading, it ran fairly well on my 2009ish PC, but struggled a bit as I began streaming full HD to my living room)
    ----> Many people put it on a NAS server or secondary storage. With all of my photo work, I like to have my storage local and then invest in backups that are mobile

    - My music collection
    -----> If you pay for the plex pass, which is a great way to support an amazing piece of software, you can then stream all of your video and audio content to your other devices, like your smartphone at work. I love having access to all of my music by just downloading an app.
     
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  10. jwinslow

    jwinslow It's not the perfection but the direction Staff Member

    Yup, and it's stunning how terrible they are at securing advertisements for the only place they'll truly be viewed. Even live sports involve a lot of channel switching.
     
  11. DoctorWho

    DoctorWho Geronimo

    Have you looked into uploading music to Google play?
     
  12. jwinslow

    jwinslow It's not the perfection but the direction Staff Member

    Nope, I have not really explored that. I'm not very well versed in music streaming overall. I don't do that much streaming since a lot of my work is in the field where I can't or won't listen to music (or at my home office).
     
  13. DoctorWho

    DoctorWho Geronimo

    Oh man. You can upload up to 50000 songs for free. And you can use it on iOS, android, Mac, pc. Its one of my favorite apps
     
  14. wadc45

    wadc45 Bourbon, Bow Ties and Baseball Hats Staff Member BP Recruiting Team

    Can you use Sling through an Apple TV or only through Roku? My wife and I are dead set on dropping cable. We will likely have two TVs in our new house so it sounds like we will need two Rokus.

    I am currently paying about $180 through AT&T for two cable boxes and internet. My friends and I all share Netflix, Hulu and HBO. I would probably need to get cable login from a family member to be able to continue to watch the Cavs and BTN. My other concern is how to record shows that I miss. Is setting up the external hard drive fairly easy?

    Do you need the Mohu antenna and the Tablo tuner? Sorry for the novice questions but I am totally new at this.
     
  15. AuTX Buckeye

    AuTX Buckeye Beam me up, Mr. Speaker. '14 Yahoo Pickem Champ Former Game Champion

    No SlingTV on Apple TV... (i'll check my 4th gen when i get home). You'd need to mirror from an ipad/iphone - part of the reason I dropped it.

    for Antenna.. Mohu's aren't worth the money from my understanding. I bought 2 refurb winegards from Fry's for $20 a pop they work great. - wirecutter indoor antenna review

    As for DVR - since I switch to windows 10 and lost media center I haven't even attempted because i dont have the time or the patient for the convoluted setup - or want to pay for access to tv channel guide info

    question: how far away from the TV towers are you?
     

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