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California - PAC 10

Discussion in 'College Football' started by kinch, Aug 24, 2004.

  1. kinch

    kinch Wash me Staff Member

    I need some help. . .

    So California is getting massive props lately, and I can't for the life of me figure out why, other than that they had one good game last season.

    They may be great, I know very little about the PAC 10. If anyone here could illuminate the California team, and, if possible, other contenders such as Oregeon State, Washington State, etc., I would appreciate it. I want to learn more about this league and feel that I am not getting any true knowledge from the over-hyped national media.

    Thanks.
     
  2. luckobucko

    luckobucko Robust T

    Cal - I would say they're fairly comparable to NC State. Their coach, Jeff Tedford, is seen as an offensive guru - they play the west coast offense/short passing game for the most part. Both seem to play over their heads in big games (USC, OSU) and then play down to the level of lesser competition (Utah, Wake Forest.) I saw two of their games last year - Utah and USC, and their performance in those games were like night and day. Against the Trojans they were flying all over the place making big plays both ways, and then against the Utes it seemed like their shoes were filled with concrete. I think with all of the media stroking they've gotten this summer they will lose one or two games they shouldn't, and end up no better than 8-4..
     
  3. DiHard

    DiHard Guest

    as to cal....

    the main reason is Jeff Tedford the head coach....he is an offensive guy much like norm chow...he was the OC at Oregon before coming to cal (this is his third year at cal)...he is credited for creating the great oregon's offenses of the late 90's early 00's..and there seems to be merit to that as the ducks offense has declined since he left and Cal's is growing by leaps and bounds...
    before telford arrived cal had averaged...18.3, 22.4,16.4 and 16.6 ppg for four years...in two years under telford they have averaged...35.6 and 32.6....

    they have an average defense....a great young qb in aaron rodgers....the tough part is replacing Echemandu...a really solid rb....but arrington seems to be capable....

    finally....a major reason for being on the cal bandwagon (i picked them 7) is the schedule...ooc they play airforce, newmexst and s.miss.....and the pacten appears to be down a little this year......

    hope that helps....
     
  4. BuckStocksHere

    BuckStocksHere Semper Fi!

    tedford #1 reason.

    reason # 2 - once someone jumps on the bandwagon.....look out. Someone in the media picked Cal as a "sexy" pick and then people just ran with it. You'll hear it for the next few weeks louder and louder until they lose. At that point - you will hear Jeff Tedford may be coaching his last year at Cal because opportunities at bigger schools will be everywhere. It's the fun of being a low-mid level team. Just when they get good, somebody wants their coach.
     
  5. DiHard

    DiHard Guest

    actually Tedford turned down the Chicago Bears this off-season.....they are already after him.....

    tedford is credited for the success of harrington, boller and now rodgers....
     
  6. BuckStocksHere

    BuckStocksHere Semper Fi!

    If they liked him last year - they will love him this year. Since I hate the freakin Bears, I'm glad they didn't get him. I wish ol' dickie boy was still around. darn. maybe they could bring back ditka. that is what everyone wants anyway. he is terrible. that trade looks real good doesn't it coach? ha ha.

    lovie smith i believe is their guy now right? we'll have to wait and see. maybe he'll end up like the coach in g.b. that was there for one year and they realized ... oooops we made a mistake. the ever popular ray rhodes.
     
  7. DaBuckMD

    DaBuckMD Rookie

    My perception is that Cal is getting props as a challenger for the PAC-10, versus any national title props. Quite frankly, and not to sound condescending, but who else would you pick from the PAC-10 to challenge USC? Cal was the only team that proved they could play well with USC last year.

    It's the only major conference that does not have a legitimate challenger to the top team, USC. Either USC is that good, or it's a weak conference.
     
  8. kippy1040

    kippy1040 Junior

    Matt Hayes of "The Sporting News" has Ohio State playing California in the Rose Bowl. And for the N/C he has Georgia Vs SoCal in the Orange Bowl. FIW
     
  9. Bucklion

    Bucklion Throwback Staff Member Former Premier League Champ

    Cal returns 9 starters on D and 7 on O. Thier QB play last year was outstanding (19 TD/5 INT for Rodgers) and they have a big play receiver in McArthur, who caught 85 passes for 1500 yards and 10 scores. They don't make a lot of mistakes, and they have a pretty weak nonconference schedule. All areas (D, O, ST) are probably top 4 in the conference, and they come into the season after beating VTU in their bowl game. They will be good, and the conference is down this year top-to-bottom, so I wouldn't be surprised to see them finish 2nd or 3rd.
     
  10. RugbyBuck

    RugbyBuck Our church has no bells.

    Georgia will drop at least one of Florida, TN, Auburn, or LSU, and likely two. I know that doesn't affect the PAC 10 and is off topic, I just like saying it. In fact, I think they may lose to GA Tech.
     
  11. daddyphatsacs

    daddyphatsacs Let the cards fall... Staff Member

    This lame ass schedule is why they are being favored as a darkhorse. If they can beat USC in L.A. they have a nice shot at being a 1 loss team at the end of the season. ASU, Oregon, or Oregon St. will give them their other loss.


     
  12. wstripes

    wstripes Newbie

    I hate Cal but they should be pretty good this year. Tedford is a good coach and their qb is either the best or second best in the pac ten. Dihard, your right this is a down year for the pac ten. However, I'm sure one team will pop out of nowhere like Washington State has the last couple of years. Cal has the most classless fans in all of college football
     
  13. Cincinnatibuck

    Cincinnatibuck Freshman

    You obviously have never been to Wisconsin or read the stories. Don't know about the Cal fans, but I'm sure the Wisconsin fans can give them a run for their money.
     
  14. methomps

    methomps an imbecility, a stupidity without name

  15. DaBuckMD

    DaBuckMD Rookie

    That is funny stuff....
     

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