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Celtics-Cavs Second Round Series

billmac91;1165933; said:
A 1 man team?

I don't think any Cavs would tell you that they expected Cleveland to make it to the Eastern Conference finals.

This series just shows how much help LeBron needs. Not how good Boston is.

Detroit is the better overall team. It will be an interesting series, IMO. I like Billups, Hamilton, Prince, and Wallace more than Allen, Pierce, KG, and Rondo.


Thanks, that was my point apparently reading the rest of the post was optional.:biggrin:
 
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OH10;1166273; said:
I'm glad I did not post right after the game. It would have been an angry post and it would have been unfair to Boston.

Paul Pierce came to play yesterday. He did it on the outside. He took the ball to the basket. He got to the line. He made some nice looks. That had to be the best game of his career... all things considered.

Lebron James was the best player in the league yesterday. Most other days, I would say that it's Kobe. But no one... not Kobe... not Paul Pierce... not Chris Paul... could have done what Lebron did yesterday in Game 7 on the road with little help against the best defensive team in the league. No one.

Yeah, this thread was a disaster yesterday. Glad I waited to post. I will talk offseason in the Cavs thread but time to talk about the game.

Paul Pierce finally had a game. I didn't think he could do that against LeBron and that is the reason Boston won, Plain and simple. Yes our supporting cast didn't show up, but alot of Boston's supporting cast didn't show up either. To me that was a wash.

While people will look at the jump ball as the turning point I look at the play leading up to that jump ball. West missed an open 3 pointer. He hits that, the game is tied and it really becomes interesting. He missed it and we couldn't secure the rebound. Really I thought there was a foul there and was shocked it was a jump ball.

Another thing was the bounces all went to the Celtics. When Boston missed their shots they missed them badly... so badly it out bounced the rebounding position we had. Long rebounds just favor the offsensive team. Then when their is a tip back it finds an open Pierce for a 3 pointer. It was just frustrating.

So tip the cap to Paul Pierce and Boston. Good luck against Detroit cuz you will need it. Not because Detroit is better, the Cavs played Boston tough and drained the Celtics. And when all of your stars are in their 30s, playing every other day for 3 weeks will catch up to you at some point. THAT will prove to be the biggest test for Boston... fatigue.
 
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Their needs to be some major changes this offseason for Cleveland to even have a chance to resign LeBron.

The first peron that needs to be traded is PAVS, the kid is horrible, granted he can hit some 3's but other than that pathetic. They need to find a post up player that can shoot the ball (KOFUS). Wallace has no offensive game. Joe Smith is a very good player but lacks the strength to post up. Varajoa isnt that good of a shooter and is a little uncoordinated. Wally well, when hes on hes on and when hes off hes JUNK.

As I see it only players that are worth keeping is (other than Lebron of course)

Joe Smith
BROWN (why didnt he play at all in the playoffs)
West
Varajoa
Z
Boobie


WTF is up with KG saying motherfuck this and that all the damn time and the TV station replaying the moron saying it. The star of your team gets fouled by Wally and he gets up and mouths IM A MOTHERFUCKING G. Nice role model for kids watching the game. CLASSY
 
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02Buckeyes06;1166498; said:
WTF is up with KG saying motherfuck this and that all the damn time and the TV station replaying the moron saying it. The star of your team gets fouled by Wally and he gets up and mouths IM A MOTHERFUCKING G. Nice role model for kids watching the game. CLASSY

If any kids recognized what he mouthed, they already knew that language from other sources.

Anymore, cursing is about the least worry when it comes to role models.

Steroids, cheating refs, cheating coaches, rapists, drugs, murder...if cursing is the worst thing that happens, I'd call it a good night.
 
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Yesterday reminded me why I do not watch the NBA during the regular season and the only reason that I watched the Celtics-Cavs series was because Cleveland was in it. The NBA no longer plays basketball the way basketball is supposed to be played. It is more like a rugby game and I'm not just talking about one game or one team. Then all play the same way. There is so much traveling, pushing, grabbing, and whatever else the players can get away with without punching another player is fine. I guess I would like for the NBA to go back to the days of when guys like Bill Russell, Sam Jones, and Elgin Baylor used to play and athleticism and skill meant something. I will take the college game and left the NBA players get paid all of the money for not playing what they call basketball.:shake::blush:
 
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TRON;1165931; said:
I believe that they compared House's hustle to the way Bird played.

I know exactly what the comparison was. It was still labored at best, and it's the kind of stuff that ESPN does with regularity. They could have lauded House for his hustle without misappropriating the Celitcs' great tradition.
 
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Piney;1166308; said:
While people will look at the jump ball as the turning point I look at the play leading up to that jump ball. West missed an open 3 pointer. He hits that, the game is tied and it really becomes interesting. He missed it and we couldn't secure the rebound.

Agreed. At the end of the day, it came down to what it always comes down to with the Cavs--they don't have any good to great players surrounding LeBron that surround the stars of other teams (e.g., Odom and Gasol surrounding Kobe). Look at it this way--when Cleveland's bench/role players needed to make something happen in crunch time, West missed the three. When Boston's bench/role players needed to make something happen in crunch time, P.J. Brown drilled that mid-range jumper and got another two on a putback of Rondo's pathetic airball runner in the lane. Anyone who is even remotely blaming LeBron for yesterday's loss either doesn't know much about basketball or hasn't seen any Cavs' games in the last 4 years.
 
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jlb1705;1166516; said:
I know exactly what the comparison was. It was still labored at best, and it's the kind of stuff that ESPN does with regularity. They could have lauded House for his hustle without misappropriating the Celitcs' great tradition.

Eh, the kid showed some hustle and got some love for it with a comparison to Bird, no big deal.
 
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02Buckeyes06;1166498; said:
Their needs to be some major changes this offseason for Cleveland to even have a chance to resign LeBron.

The first peron that needs to be traded is PAVS, the kid is horrible, granted he can hit some 3's but other than that pathetic. They need to find a post up player that can shoot the ball (KOFUS). Wallace has no offensive game. Joe Smith is a very good player but lacks the strength to post up. Varajoa isnt that good of a shooter and is a little uncoordinated. Wally well, when hes on hes on and when hes off hes JUNK.

As I see it only players that are worth keeping is (other than Lebron of course)

Joe Smith
BROWN (why didnt he play at all in the playoffs)
West
Varajoa
Z
Boobie


WTF is up with KG saying motherfuck this and that all the damn time and the TV station replaying the moron saying it. The star of your team gets fouled by Wally and he gets up and mouths IM A MOTHERFUCKING G. Nice role model for kids watching the game. CLASSY

I have a problem with this post for a few reasons. Let's start with your statement about Sasha. Trade him immediately? Good call, trade a guy that was a major contributor on a team that made it to the Finals a year ago, and was really only a nonfactor this year because of an extended holdout and injuries. Please... Sasha will be back next year, he's only in his mid-20's and he will be better and a solid contributor to the team next year. The only way you trade him is if you package him with others to get a sure fire all star in return that will be LeBron's sidekick without a doubt.

Second, please stop being a homer. We all like Koufos here and think he will be a good player but he is exactly what the Cavs do not need right now. He just isn't ready for the NBA, and the Cavs need an NBA ready player or a tremendous athlete who can score right now.

Third, no kidding Wallace has no offensive game. They didn't bring him in here to score, they brought him in here to defend and make hustle plays. And frankly, I liked what I saw out of Ben in the playoffs. He made several key hustle plays, that gave us extra possessions, things that don't show up in the box score. Plus, he frustrated KG, especially in game 7 where he scored just 13 points, shooting under 50%.

Then, two players you comment about (Smith and VAREJAO check the spelling) you mention as guys you'd like to keep? And then your description of Wally is a description of any spot up shooter. Wally has proven he can shoot throughout his career. He had a bad second half and I expect him to come back strong next year.

The Cavs really just need to have a good draft, and make smart moves in free agency. Then they'll have expiring deals at the deadline next year to make a move for a guy who will help LeBron win his first championship, securing him in Cleveland forever... Hey I can dream right?
 
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