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Game Thread CFP Semifinal: Ohio State vs. Clemson, Sat 12/31 @ 7p ET, ESPN

Discussion in '2016 Football Season Capsule' started by MD Buckeye, Dec 4, 2016.

  1. Hstead

    Hstead Senior

    Did you see the Mock Draft I reposted and was referencing? It was Charlie Campbell and it was his 2018 mock draft. I know that is not the 2017 draft and things will change a ton between now and the 2018 draft but it still illustrates the point I am trying to make that we are not lacking in talent at the WR spot.

    Especially when you compare it to the 2014 WR corp who was very efficient with the same albeit way younger QB. It was all of these same guys that are now two years older, plus D Smith and Spencer and a young Mike T. Smith and Spencer haven't exactly had stellar NFL careers. The 2015 corp that guys claimed were lacking are all having better careers than the 2014 guys.
     
  2. Bill Lucas

    Bill Lucas Senior

    Oh, it was Charlie Campbell. Then don't mind our comments.
     
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  3. gmen6981

    gmen6981 Div 1 Couch Tackling Champion.

    Uhhh.......2012 was Urban's first year. The team went 12-0 but was ineligible for post season play. That's why under the the old division system(Leaders/Legends) the 3rd place team in the Leaders(Wisky) played in the CCG. PSU finished 2nd to the Bucks, but were ineligible also. Had the Bucks been allowed to play in the post season, I have no doubt that they would have beaten Nebby for the second time and won the Natty over ND. OSU would have gotten in the game over Bama, who had 1 or 2 losses that year.
     
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  4. 1926Buckeyes

    1926Buckeyes Senior

    I'm hoping that next year we see Victor and Hill promoted to the top 3 rotation, if not top 2. Maybe Brown will recover what people were raving about prior to 2015, but they'll need those two (and maybe some freshman) to step up to start challenging the aggressiveness of a Clemson or Bama. Otherwise, I'm concerned that even with better playcalling they'll struggle to move the ball much without Samuel.
     
  5. SEREbuckeye

    SEREbuckeye "The bag or the bat, Bob?"

    I never said anything bad about Herman. Read my post again, I said that fans were speculating his offensive prowess and worth after the Va Tech game
     
  6. Bill Lucas

    Bill Lucas Senior

    I wouldn't mind seeing Brown put the weight back on and move to TE. He's already a great blocker and he would be a weapon at that spot if, and it's probably a big if, he could handle the blocking assignments at that position.
     
  7. Hstead

    Hstead Senior

    You guys are leaving out Campbell who is a stud if given more opportunity.
     
  8. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    Go back to the stats I posted concerning Herman and his productivity. Now go back through our offense totals as far back as you like and you will find few, if any, years of such offense output.
     
  9. SEREbuckeye

    SEREbuckeye "The bag or the bat, Bob?"

    I'm really confused as to what point you are trying to make here. It's like you are trying to argue something I don't know about Herman. Are you confusing yourself?. :lol:
     
  10. Systems_id

    Systems_id Senior

    Weird, but I think I'm over this loss.
     
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  11. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    It initially started with your comment three pages back: "Tom Herman would have been gone after the Clemson 2013 loss (which is what the fans begged for)." I replied, showing why it wasn't warranted (even if some folks called for it), because Herman never had an games closing to the recent shits performances.

    You then proceeded to point out three games under Herman as some sort of "proof", despite the fact I specifically mentioned those three games as exceptions, to which I replied, reminding you of those exceptions.

    You decided you weren't done, replying "So only regular season games are to be the judgement of a coaches success and failures?", to which, yet again, I replied showing that those two post-season games weren't anywhere near as bad as yesterday, or 2015 Michigan and Sparty...three games under Beck's OC direction.

    You then replied about my comparing Beck and Herman, to which yet again I had to correct you.

    And here you are, yet again, replying just for the sake of arguing...it ain't me that's confused here.
     
  12. 1926Buckeyes

    1926Buckeyes Senior

    He's certainly has the tools, but other than some great KRs he looks like a career special teams guy. Which is fine because OSU needs a really good KR to step up and be consistent. I just haven't seen anything yet that makes me think he's ever going to be a top 3 WR.
     
  13. Drubuck

    Drubuck What time is it?

    I was over this loss by the 4th qt.
     
  14. ScriptOhio

    ScriptOhio Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.





    :oh:....:io:
     
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  15. cincibuck

    cincibuck You kids stay off my lawn!

    Not here. Yep, I knew this team was young, but as I watched Alabama's offense do its best to give away the gifts their defense presented I kept thinking the Buckeyes could beat the tide a second time in three years.

    I don't worry so much about losses to Michigan, Michigan State or the Pedsters - they're local and we get a chance to win back the bragging rights most years - but losing to teams from the South and LA seems to be the Buckeye's kryptonite.

    I confess to my disdain for the South - SEC/ACC/USC and Texas and I am vexed by the Bucks lack of success against teams from those areas. Add to that the fact that we only catch games with them when we happen to meet up in a bowl game.

    It may take decades to even the score with Clemson, South Carolina and the SEC. Look how long we waited to right matters with Notre Dame. The geographical advantage these teams have during bowl season makes it even more difficult.
     
    Last edited: Jan 1, 2017

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