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Cheat or go home: Coaches open up on cheating...

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Steve19

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"Dysfunctional hell."

That's how he describes it, years later.

The coach, in his first days on the job at one of college football's most prominent programs, walked into the office of the former staff's recruiting coordinator and stared at the big board. He asked who the most important player available was, and he was pointed toward a 5-star defensive lineman who was down to three schools.

The program was struggling, falling further behind its conference rivals and bleeding relevance with each passing day. Sonofagun, he needed that kid.

Three days later, he had the recruit and his father in his office.

The father plopped down on the sofa and laid out what it would take for this thirtysomething first-time head coach to earn his son's letter of intent.

"His father told me it would take 'more than words,'" the coach remembers. "I said, 'I promise you there is nothing more valuable than my word.'

"He said to me, 'A man's word only holds as much weight as his wallet.'"

(continues, including Bowden opens up about pay for play ledger at Auburn)

Bleacher Report link
 
I was a grad assistant at an unnamed SEC school, and can confirm the cheating in that league is very very real. But for the most part the schools at the top are much much cleaner then the one in the middle and bottom. Making sure Mama recruit has a comfy job is something almost every school does, the real dirt is when money is changing hands. Players getting deals on cars etc. is just something that happens and pretty hard to control.

This program I worked for also had a huge basketball program, and my god they don't even try to hid it in basketball. I once watched a top 5 pick punch a kid in the throat and the kid who got punched got arrested. Fun times in the south, man.

I think alot of people would be surprised whom is considered the dirtiest program in the SEC. Spoiler alert: it's not Bama....
 
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Rent Free said:
I was a grad assistant at an unnamed SEC school, and can confirm the cheating in that league is very very real. But for the most part the schools at the top are much much cleaner then the one in the middle and bottom. Making sure Mama recruit has a comfy job is something almost every school does, the real dirt is when money is changing hands. Players getting deals on cars etc. is just something that happens and pretty hard to control.

This program I worked for also had a huge basketball program, and my god they don't even try to hid it in basketball. I once watched a top 5 pick punch a kid in the throat and the kid who got punched got arrested. Fun times in the south, man.

I think alot of people would be surprised whom is considered the dirtiest program in the SEC. Spoiler alert: it's not Bama....
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You only confirmed everything suspected previously... nothing new. That said, I'll bet that you have enough to fill a couple of books...
 
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Actually, I think everyone here pretty much thinks that LSU, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Kentucky, and Auburn are among SEC schools setting a standard nationally for top 25 cheating. FSU and others not to be ignored, of course.
 
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Rent Free said:
I was a grad assistant at an unnamed SEC school, and can confirm the cheating in that league is very very real. But for the most part the schools at the top are much much cleaner then the one in the middle and bottom. Making sure Mama recruit has a comfy job is something almost every school does, the real dirt is when money is changing hands. Players getting deals on cars etc. is just something that happens and pretty hard to control.

This program I worked for also had a huge basketball program, and my god they don't even try to hid it in basketball. I once watched a top 5 pick punch a kid in the throat and the kid who got punched got arrested. Fun times in the south, man.

I think alot of people would be surprised whom is considered the dirtiest program in the SEC. Spoiler alert: it's not Bama....
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everyone in the SEC pretty much agrees dirtiest program is a race between Auburn and Ole Piss.


Steve19 said:
Actually, I think everyone here pretty much thinks that LSU, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Kentucky, and Auburn are among SEC schools setting a standard nationally for top 25 cheating. FSU and others not to be ignored, of course.
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ouch!
does LSU really have that reputation outside of the south?

because there's some SEC schools you left off that have dirtier reputations in the SEC footprint than LSU does.
 
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every school in the SEC has that rep, sans perhaps Vandy, because on some level it's true everywhere. even if you showed me proof it wasn't true at LSU i'd still laugh, because the proof is almost certainly doctored too. and i'd laugh if you tried to show me the same for Ohio State too, btw..

everyone everywhere is insanely dirty and has been for decades. it's only about the money and it's never going to change.
 
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Steve19 said:
"Dysfunctional hell."

That's how he describes it, years later.

The coach, in his first days on the job at one of college football's most prominent programs, walked into the office of the former staff's recruiting coordinator and stared at the big board. He asked who the most important player available was, and he was pointed toward a 5-star defensive lineman who was down to three schools.

The program was struggling, falling further behind its conference rivals and bleeding relevance with each passing day. Sonofagun, he needed that kid.

Three days later, he had the recruit and his father in his office.

The father plopped down on the sofa and laid out what it would take for this thirtysomething first-time head coach to earn his son's letter of intent.

"His father told me it would take 'more than words,'" the coach remembers. "I said, 'I promise you there is nothing more valuable than my word.'

"He said to me, 'A man's word only holds as much weight as his wallet.'"

(continues, including Bowden opens up about pay for play ledger at Auburn)

Bleacher Report link
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Once prominent program that was fading, 30-something coach that needed 5-star defensive players to turn things around. Still the coach.

Bob Stoops, may I introduce you to Torrance Marshall?

Sorry. I shouldn't imply Bob Stoops may or may not have done a little shady stuff at the beginning to jump-start his career. 5-star DE/LB hybrids from Miami-Dade were beating down the door to suit up for the Sooners in 1999.
 
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Nutriaitch said:
everyone in the SEC pretty much agrees dirtiest program is a race between Auburn and Ole Piss.




ouch!
does LSU really have that reputation outside of the south?

because there's some SEC schools you left off that have dirtier reputations in the SEC footprint than LSU does.
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Can only answer that for myself. I don't think that LSU on the really dirty side of the SEC scale. I say this only based on the percent of kids you take in-state. You've got a lot of talent down there and they want to go to LSU. It's not like having to buy them to 'Ol Miss where the recruiting grounds are nowhere near as fertile.
 
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The stories told about Auburn from coaches is legendary type shit. From I was told it use to be much much worse in the 80s and early 90s.

Players showing recruits a good time is something they all do. But some schools like to use "hired help". It's kinda amazing more school haven't been busted for the stripper/hooker type recruiting shit.
 
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Rent Free said:
I was a grad assistant at an unnamed SEC school, and can confirm the cheating in that league is very very real. But for the most part the schools at the top are much much cleaner then the one in the middle and bottom. Making sure Mama recruit has a comfy job is something almost every school does, the real dirt is when money is changing hands. Players getting deals on cars etc. is just something that happens and pretty hard to control.

This program I worked for also had a huge basketball program, and my god they don't even try to hid it in basketball. I once watched a top 5 pick punch a kid in the throat and the kid who got punched got arrested. Fun times in the south, man.

I think alot of people would be surprised whom is considered the dirtiest program in the SEC. Spoiler alert: it's not Bama....
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First, there's only one SEC school with a huge basketball program that brings in top 5 picks.

Two, it's gotta be Auburn. The football boosters literally run the board of trustees. Gotta be Auburn.
 
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I saw/did some stuff on recruiting trips and heard first hand stories from other players about what they experienced on trips that were not exactly "legal". One guy that has worked one of the entrances at The Shoe for 30+ years also told him he can always tell when an OSU player is going out early because they show up at The Game driving a new Escalade lol.
 
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