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Cincinnati Bearcats (Juggalos official thread of Faygo)

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DiamondBuck said:
Interesting piece...

The Slow Death of The Cincinnati Enquirer

...The Enquirer newsroom is staffed by young writers, almost none of whom are from Cincinnati, many of whom are just several years out of school, and almost all of whom espouse the view — subconsciously or overtly — that Cincinnati is a second-rate city in need of help — namely, theirs.

But come on, we’re writers. Delusional comes with the territory.

There’s also nothing wrong with being a non-native. Sometimes it lends invaluable outside perspective. This can be good.

What it guarantees, however, is an incomplete understanding of local colloquialism, culture, ideology, and — most of all — history.
The Enquirer archives were floor-to-ceiling full of old print papers and photos — so much history on Cincinnati it would make your head spin. There were amazing old original photos of everything from Nixon to The Beatles to the Big Red Machine and the World Series.

It was all neglected to the point of irrelevance. A colleague actually once asked me what the Big Red Machine was. Shunned to the corner, the archivist staff was cut down to one part-timer. Sadly, it was more than adequate. No one learned. We didn’t have time to smell the old ink. We were too busy writing content. Content, content, all the time. Never a moment to pause. Never a moment to proof-read. (Take a look at any recent Enquirer article for typo-ridden evidence.)...
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A sad situation. This article from Governing magazine is semi-on point as well (http://www.governing.com/columns/eco-engines/gov-winner-take-all-economy.html), as I think that the attitude of the outsiders reflects aspirations of Coastal elite city "coolness" that isn't going to happen in Cincy or a myriad of similarly-sized (and larger) cities.
 
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Quiet as kept, UC finished with a pretty decent class. Made of southern kids That Tubs went after and Midwest/tri state kids that Fickell was familiar with, and 2 former Buckeyes. Getting Golden and White are the type of local talent that Fickell should go after and win more times than not in city. Getting Michael Warren out of Toledo was also a major pull, and getting Potts from Indy was the biggest win of the class along with Gibson. I give Fickell another year to compete seriously in the AAC, and his 2018 class will be very good one full of local talent and with kids from nearby states.


http://cincinnati.247sports.com/Season/2017-Football/Commits
 
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A survey taken back in the 60's showed that 40% of the fans attending Reds' games came from Dayton. Watching traffic on 75 and 71 on game days for the Reds and Bengals would suggest that the pattern remains the same. So much that would draw people to Metro-Cincinnati in the 60's - department stores, restaurants, car dealers- have moved to the burbs. But the city's core supports 4 theaters, has two well-established art museums, an expanding history museum, a good zoo, and a number of well-known colleges in a 20-mile circle from Fountain Square. So suggesting that Dayton is a part of Gross Zinzinnati is not that big a stretch - after all, Chicago claims Wheaton, Lake Forest, Gary, Joliet and half of Milwaukee.

Like you, I wish Fickell well, but what Cincinnati is not going to support is Bearcat football - or Redhawks football. U Dayton and Xavier got that message long ago. I wonder how long it will take in a tightened education budget era before economics force the Cincinnatis and Miamis to drop the sport too.
 
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Depends. Dayton follows the Reds in the summer, Buckeyes in the fall, Sundays are split between the kids, who follow the Bungles, and those of us who remember Otto, Jim Brown and Paul Warfield, winter it's the UD Flyers. So yeah, sort of. Actually, metro Cincinnati has been increasingly Buckeye territory in the fall as Notre Dame continues its march to obsolescence.
 
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cincibuck said:
A survey taken back in the 60's showed that 40% of the fans attending Reds' games came from Dayton. Watching traffic on 75 and 71 on game days for the Reds and Bengals would suggest that the pattern remains the same. So much that would draw people to Metro-Cincinnati in the 60's - department stores, restaurants, car dealers- have moved to the burbs. But the city's core supports 4 theaters, has two well-established art museums, an expanding history museum, a good zoo, and a number of well-known colleges in a 20-mile circle from Fountain Square. So suggesting that Dayton is a part of Gross Zinzinnati is not that big a stretch - after all, Chicago claims Wheaton, Lake Forest, Gary, Joliet and half of Milwaukee.

Like you, I wish Fickell well, but what Cincinnati is not going to support is Bearcat football - or Redhawks football. U Dayton and Xavier got that message long ago. I wonder how long it will take in a tightened education budget era before economics force the Cincinnatis and Miamis to drop the sport too.
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cincibuck said:
Depends. Dayton follows the Reds in the summer, Buckeyes in the fall, Sundays are split between the kids, who follow the Bungles, and those of us who remember Otto, Jim Brown and Paul Warfield, winter it's the UD Flyers. So yeah, sort of. Actually, metro Cincinnati has been increasingly Buckeye territory in the fall as Notre Dame continues its march to obsolescence.
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I can't speak to what people Dayton watch, though I know that Dayton is heavy into the Buckeyes in the fall, and pretty much OH starts at Dayton and goes north, south of Dayton has been taken by KY(I kid I kid... kind of). But, what holds true of Cincinnatians, is being a bandwagon fan base for all of their teams. When Brian Kelly coached at UC(and a lesser extent Jones) butts were in seats in the stands, there was a mass of tailgating throughout Clifton, and it was an actual CFB game atmosphere that permeated through the city(especially the year they went to the Sugar Bowl). Unfortunately, UC fans and alum don't get that UC is a stepping stone school and resent when coaches make the team relevant and then leave, and they in turn don't go to games for the next coach. The new coach needs almost half a season to rebuild their trust, and more importantly put a winner on the field. If UC fans had any sense, they would embrace the stepping stone role and relish getting a hot, up and coming coach every 3-4yrs, but instead they get pissed off at the coach for leaving and expect an old has been coach with a big name to stay, but in turn that coach does little but collect a pay check and return them to irrelevance. Winning would cure the absence, and bring fans in for sure(look at the Bungles and Reds for examples, when they win fans show up, when they don't, everyone stays home, pure bandwagon). Fickell also recruiting local kids will help bring in fans as well

And Cincinnati is still split in football between OSU and ND, with a slight edge still to ND. Too many Catholics in this city, and too much unreasonable hatred for the Buckeyes to make up that gap.
 
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The juggalos on the juggalo board actually have convinced themselves that Cincinnati is going to absorb Dayton into its MSA and thus flip the town into a UC town. Never mind that the government splits off MSA's not combines them as they did when they severed Akron from the Cleveland MSA or as they're talking of doing with the Schaunberg-Naperville monolith West of Chicago. Never mind that Dayton would still maintain its own newspaper and radio and tv stations. Never mind that......oh fuck it.
 
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RE: Eleven Warriors article: Kerry Coombs is Ohio State's Man in Cincinnati
(Today 07:43 AM)doss2 Wrote: "It is sad, though, that we needed an assistant to nail down Cincinnati. Always been the dysfunctional child of the state."

Dysfunctional child? Really? I guess that means we don't drink the Cowtown Koolaide.

If North Korea launches an ICBM I sure hope it gets intercepted unless it's target is Cowlumbus.


Yes, pretty laughable isn't it when one looks at the long and ever growing list of top tens that regularly include Cincinnati. If the "State of Cincinnati" seceded, along with the Cleveland metro, Ohio would look and feel more like Iowa to most objective, outside observers.
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I'm pretty sure that I'm actually growing to hate the whole "Republic of Cincinnati" nonsense more than the juggalo antics though they seem to be tied together on a fundamental level. As someone who's lived on the West coast, East coast, abroad and Chicago, nobody outside of SW Ohio views Cincinnati any differently than they view Columbus or Indianapolis or Milwaukee. They are all mid-size, Midwestern cities to the outside world.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
I'm pretty sure that I'm actually growing to hate the whole "Republic of Cincinnati" nonsense more than the juggalo antics though they seem to be tied together on a fundamental level. As someone who's lived on the West coast, East coast, abroad and Chicago, nobody outside of SW Ohio views Cincinnati any differently than they view Columbus or Indianapolis or Milwaukee. There all mid-size, Midwestern cities to the outside world.
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I agree with you and it is only UC fans that act like this in my opinion.
 
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As Pnuts points out, the town is still just one great season and Brain Kelly - who has not been forgiven for leaving his BCS bowl team in the lurch - away from being in the hold of Notre Dame. There's a strong bond with UC and X and I don't think that's unreasonable. A high percentage of the local kids go to those two schools and Miami, many more than go to Ohio State. The news in high school sports is dominated by the GCL, and a high percentage of the population send their kids to Catholic schools. St. X high school has an endowment fund that would shame many small colleges and her alums remain many of the movers and shakers in the town.

By contrast, Dayton is far less Catholic, far more mobile - it's a great place to be from - and the love for UC has never been there. In the 50s and 60s kids from Dayton went to UC for one reason: they had an extensive co-op program that helped cut the cost of education. At heart, Dayton has always been about the baseball Reds, the basketball Flyers and the football Buckeyes and that isn't changing anytime soon.

For a long time, Cincinnati has been far more of a European community - long established family ties that held the younger generation in place. Procter and Gamble hired local talent and the stories of the woman who started as a secretary, the man who was a janitor, and retired from P&G as millionaires are legion - and true.

But things are changing. In the 70s, P&G hiring began to focus on the Ivies, less on local colleges, and recruited talent nationally. GE has always had a national outlook. Both have become globalists. Democrats took over the Hamilton county commissioners office for the first time in decades, Clinton received 40,000 more votes than Trump, and it will take more clever gerrymandering to keep the two congressional seats in GOP hands in 2018. Corporate life style has weakend the old cradle-to-grave grasp on the city's youth.

I miss the ease of following all things Buckeye I enjoyed in Dayton and Columbus, but Cincinnati remains affordable, has a better arts scene than Columbus and the downtown has become alive again. The UK basketball hub bub and the ND hold irritate, but hey, I've got BP to bring things into focus.
 
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