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Cincinnati Bearcats (Juggalos official thread of Faygo)

A Rose Bowl would be possible, if Cal made it to the BCS Title game. But the Rose would get one of the first two replacement picks, and although they may bypass a 2-loss USC to avoid a tOSU-USC rematch, Cincinnati would be an unlikely choice (unless they were undefeated and BCS #3 or #4). So if tOSU and Cincinnati both ran the table, there's a chance they could meet in Pasadena.

An Orange Bowl matchup is possible if Miami goes to the BCS Title game, and the Orange Bowl gets a replacement pick (they are tied to the ACC Champ unless that team is BCS #1/#2). But it's doubtful they would take a 2-loss tOSU (a 1-loss tOSU would be in the Rose Bowl, possibly the BCS Title game if chaos reigns). The Orange Bowl would love to host tOSU, since it's been over 30 years since the Buckeyes have been there, and they get first choice this year (after the #1 and #2 teams are put into the Title game and the bowls that 'lose' those teams get replacement picks.
I think its highly unlikely that OSU and UC meat in a Bowl because of the selection process.
I do think you're wrong in the situation that OSU is a 2 loss non Big 10 winner ( I actually doubt this happens but for this purpose I'll pretend that OSU doesn't beat PSU in Happy Valley).

First lets make some assumptions
Let's rule out Ntre Ame because Charlie will find a way to get himself fired without Floyd to catch jumpballs for him.
Let's Go ahead and put #1 Florida And #2 Miami in the National Title Game.
Then we assume that USC and PSU are in the Rose Bowl. UT/OU automatically to the Fiesta Bowl.
The Sugar Bowl with the first selection needing to replace Florida probably takes whichever is the highest ranked SEC team (Alabama, Ole Miss, LSU, UGA). The Orange Bowl gets to replace Miami and then gets the next selection and unlike the Rose and to some extent the Sugar the Orange would love to get out of having an ACC team that doesn't travel well.
I think the first one is obvious. The Orange bowl takes the other Big 12 team.

That leaves the following possibilities: Big East Champ UC, Non AQ (Boise St, TCU, etc...), 2 Loss OSU, ACC Team (FSU, Va Tech, BC, etc...) Follow the money. The money says the easy 2nd choice is OSU. Does that mean OSU plays UC? No. But the Orange would take OSU over UC in a heart beat. That gives the orange something like OU vs OSU. Now there talking. The Orange Bowl could care less that OSU has the last 6 big games and last 3 BCS bowl games. UC probably plays the 2nd SEC team the Sugar in this scenario and the Fiesta gets the mid major.

I think the Fiesta gets the mid major regardless because they get the last pick.
 
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Gatorubet;1547987; said:
Never know. Any given Saturday. S. Florida Bulls could surprise us on a bad day. Cinci could catch you sleeping. Utah might beat Bama :paranoid:

Just sayin'.

Sure it could happen. OSU was a dropped pass in the endzone away from losing to them in 2002.

But. They haven't won anything yet. The last 2 seasons, they've lost 3 games each (remember, OSU fans are pissed when OSU loses 3, even when the 3 are all against BCS participants....Llloyd lost his job for regularly losing 3 games) and these are their best seasons, by far, since the early 50's. They lost by 26 to the landthieves last season. They lost by 26 to an unranked and 5-loss Uconn. VPI shut them down in the Orange Bowl. The only team they beat last year that ended up in the top 25 was #23 West Virginia. When they ran into a good team, they didn't just lose, they got dismantled.

2007 was a similar story. Only win over a team ranked in the top 25 at the end of the season was against #25 Oregon State. They lost to 6-6 Louisville and 5-7 Pittsburgh. (In the interest of intellectual honesty...whatever the hell that is.....I'll mention that they also lost a very close game to a DickRod lead WVU team that finished #6.

A couple more 10+ win seasons coupled with a couple signature wins and they will start getting more respect. Beat VPI or Oklahoma and prove that you deserve to be mentioned with the other "big boys". At this point, it's hard to see them as much more than a pretty darn good team playing in a mediocre conference. (As god is my witness, Gator....if you FIFY this post by replacing "VPI or Oklahoma" with "USC or Texas", I will ding you until my fingers bleed :p)

I have a lot of respect for them and their program. Dantonio before and Kelly now have doing very good things down there. I'm rooting for them against almost everyone they play. Better football in Ohio can't really be a bad thing. If someone has to win the Big East, it might as well be them.

To me, this just another one of those cases where Cincy is a more fashionable team right now because they play a "prettier" game and score more points.
 
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BB73;1547940; said:
A Rose Bowl would be possible, if Cal made it to the BCS Title game. But the Rose would get one of the first two replacement picks, and although they may bypass a 2-loss USC to avoid a tOSU-USC rematch, Cincinnati would be an unlikely choice (unless they were undefeated and BCS #3 or #4). So if tOSU and Cincinnati both ran the table, there's a chance they could meet in Pasadena.

An Orange Bowl matchup is possible if Miami goes to the BCS Title game, and the Orange Bowl gets a replacement pick (they are tied to the ACC Champ unless that team is BCS #1/#2). But it's doubtful they would take a 2-loss tOSU (a 1-loss tOSU would be in the Rose Bowl, possibly the BCS Title game if chaos reigns). The Orange Bowl would love to host tOSU, since it's been over 30 years since the Buckeyes have been there, and they get first choice this year (after the #1 and #2 teams are put into the Title game and the bowls that 'lose' those teams get replacement picks.
If Ohio State loses to Cincinnati in the Orange or Rose Bowls, can we still blame it on the travel?

:p
 
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t_BuckeyeScott;1548009; said:
I think its highly unlikely that OSU and UC meat in a Bowl because of the selection process.
I do think you're wrong in the situation that OSU is a 2 loss non Big 10 winner ( I actually doubt this happens but for this purpose I'll pretend that OSU doesn't beat PSU in Happy Valley).

First lets make some assumptions
Let's rule out Ntre Ame because Charlie will find a way to get himself fired without Floyd to catch jumpballs for him.
Let's Go ahead and put #1 Florida And #2 Miami in the National Title Game.
Then we assume that USC and PSU are in the Rose Bowl. UT/OU automatically to the Fiesta Bowl.
The Sugar Bowl with the first selection needing to replace Florida probably takes whichever is the highest ranked SEC team (Alabama, Ole Miss, LSU, UGA). The Orange Bowl gets to replace Miami and then gets the next selection and unlike the Rose and to some extent the Sugar the Orange would love to get out of having an ACC team that doesn't travel well.
I think the first one is obvious. The Orange bowl takes the other Big 12 team.

That leaves the following possibilities: Big East Champ UC, Non AQ (Boise St, TCU, etc...), 2 Loss OSU, ACC Team (FSU, Va Tech, BC, etc...) Follow the money. The money says the easy 2nd choice is OSU. Does that mean OSU plays UC? No. But the Orange would take OSU over UC in a heart beat. That gives the orange something like OU vs OSU. Now there talking. The Orange Bowl could care less that OSU has the last 6 big games and last 3 BCS bowl games. UC probably plays the 2nd SEC team the Sugar in this scenario and the Fiesta gets the mid major.

I think the Fiesta gets the mid major regardless because they get the last pick.

I'm not sure that the second Big 12 team (e.g., Oklahoma) will be a desirable opponent in this scenario. If Miami is in the title game, it's because they gave Oklahoma a second loss, and if Texas wins the Big 12 South, that's 3 losses for Oklahoma. They could get a 4th from Texas Tech or Okie St, and not even be eligible for the BCS.

Then the Orange is choosing two teams, probably among: 2-loss tOSU (if PSU is in the Rose), possibly 2-loss Va Tech or 2-loss FSU, possibly 2-loss Nebraska/Mizzou/Kansas, and Cincy.

If Cincy is undefeated, the Orange will get pressure (media pressure, not financial) to take them instead of taking two bigger name teams that both have at least 2 losses.

I agree that ND probably won't qualify, and that the [strike] Fiesta [/strike] Sugar will get stuck with Boise/TCU. Edit - The Sugar picks last this year.

Although unlikely, tOSU and Cincy could meet in either the Rose or the Orange this year. And those that want it to happen should be pulling for Cal, Miami, and Cincy to keep winning, since those scenarios allow for the possibility.
 
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Merih;1547934; said:
My understanding is that if Cal goes undefeated and goes to the MNC, and USC isn't attractive enough for the Rose Bowl selection committee, then they can pick an at large team. If this scenario comes to pass I would be more than happy to see Cincinnati take that role.

You've got to fill 100K seats in Los Angeles. You're not going to do that with two teams from Ohio. Same same Florida, Texas or Arizona bowls and the last thing I want to see is the Buckeyes in the Motor City Bowl.
 
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SayNoToMichigan;1547966; said:
Anybody who doesn't think we would [censored] lil bother up is crazy...Alot of they're guy's would never see the two deep. When they start playing and beating top 10 program's then call me. You can't build your program on kid's we don't want and think your a better program...

[censored] em...

They this is a Cincy thread, don't rag on Michigan!!
 
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BB73;1547921; said:

You can stop reading right there.

t_BuckeyeScott;1547932; said:
I actually thought Brian Kelley's comments were perfect. In that article. He admits that UC is the little brother without saying, but intimates that the goal is not to be. He took no shot at Ohio State. Its hard not to like Brian Kelly.

He's not a dipshit. That's part of what makes him dangerous.

SayNoToMichigan;1547966; said:
Anybody who doesn't think we would [censored] lil bother up is crazy...Alot of they're guy's would never see the two deep. When they start playing and beating top 10 program's then call me. You can't build your program on kid's we don't want and think your a better program...

[censored] em...

UC came thisclose to beating the Buckeyes with less talent and a far worse coach back in '02. Right now their QB is playing better than ours. Not saying I'd want Pike over Pryor - and I probably just caused a shitstorm anyway by saying that - but through the first few weeks of the season Pike is making better decisions than Pryor and that's a huge part of the battle.

I think the Buckeyes are better than UC. Since some jackass UC fans are running their mouths though, some people on here refuse to give UC any credit for what they're doing right now and I don't think that's fair. There is a middle ground here. It's OK to admit they have a good football team without taking anything away from Ohio State.

I admire what UC has been able to do this year. They returned just one player on defense, and have tried to patch that gaping hole by moving a lot of their better athletes over from the other side of the ball. They don't have a great defense (and certainly not as good as Ohio State's) but it's been good enough so far to get the results they need. So far they've beaten a top-25 team on the road and blew out the team many picked to win the Big East ahead of them - also on the road. They have a tougher stretch than that to close out the season - we'll find out much more of what they're capable of then - they close the season with UConn, West Virginia, BYE, Illinois & Pitt.
 
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Until this team shows some strong improvement in qb and ol line play, along with more productive offensive play calling and no more 4th quarter letdowns on defense.....AND Cincy gets exposed by a quality (or not so quality) opponent, the notion that this Ohio State team would automatically crush this Cincy team is ludicrous.

Pesonally, I like Kelly. Some of his players run their mouths knowing that they'll never have to back it up. The UC administration is acting like a complete asshats with their "Ohio's BCS Team" and "bUCkeye country" nonsense. Kelly, however, seems realistic and proud without devolving into childish smack.

The Cincy fanbase has seriously confused having a Top 25 year with being a Top 25 program. They are still far from being the latter. The loudmouths in Cincy (on the team and in the community) should enjoy this while they can because odds are that Kelly's at ND next year. One poor replacement hire, and they could very well find themselves back in the football wilderness for a generation.
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1548401; said:
Until this team shows some strong improvement in qb and ol line play, along with more productive offensive play calling and no more 4th quarter letdowns on defense.....AND Cincy gets exposed by a quality (or not so quality) opponent, the notion that this Ohio State team would automatically crush this Cincy team is ludicrous.

Pesonally, I like Kelly. Some of his players run their mouths knowing that they'll never have to back it up. The UC administration is acting like a complete asshats with their "Ohio's BCS Team" and "bUCkeye country" nonsense. Kelly, however, seems realistic and proud without devolving into childish smack.

The Cincy fanbase has seriously confused having a Top 25 year with being a Top 25 program. They are still far from being the latter. The loudmouths in Cincy (on the team and in the community) should enjoy this while they can because odds are that Kelly's at ND next year. One poor replacement hire, and they could very well find themselves back in the football wilderness for a generation.


Agree, good post.

Kelley is a very good coach and even though UC fans and the media want to make believe that Kelley is staying for more than, at most, 2-3 years, he's probably gone fairly soon. That's just how it is.
 
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I have been a big fan of Kelly for a while now. I don't like the Bearcats, but that guy is a fucking awesome coach. He is going to be a big time coach, at a very big time program. If I were Notre Dame I'd fire Chuck and bring that guy in. He has experience recruiting in the midwest and has the right offense to appeal to the masses. :wink:

Mind you I hate the Irish so I don't want to see him coaching there. This guy is a top level coach.
 
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I can't improve upon this little gem.:biggrin:

BCS title game is for big boys, not 'Boisinatti' - CBSSports.com

Boisinnati in the BCS title game? Come on. Life isn't a Rocky movie. In real life, Rocky gets KTFO.

Also in real life, any team good enough to navigate an SEC or Big 12 schedule with just one or two losses would be good enough to play Boisinnati's schedule and go 12-0. And they'd look a lot better than Boisinnati looked on Saturday. Boise State was beating UC Davis just 27-16 in the fourth quarter, and UC Davis is a 1-3 team from Division I-AA. Cincinnati was beating Miami-Ohio just 23-13 late in the third quarter, and not only does Miami-Ohio have an 0-5 record, it lost to Kentucky earlier this season 42-0.

I don't wonder if Cincinnati could beat a BCS title contender. I wonder if Cincinnati could beat Kentucky.
 
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In an effort to put a lot butts in seats for the October 15th matchup with the Bearcats, USF is selling $10 tickets for the upper bowl of the stadium.

gousfbulls.com

TAMPA - The University of South Florida has unveiled $10 upper bowl tickets for the Oct. 15 game between the No. 23/24 Bulls and No. 8/10 Cincinnati Bearcats.

Fans that are interested in reserving seats in the lower bowl can still purchase Mini Plans, which are selling quickly after the Florida State and Syracuse wins. The pick three Mini Plans allow fans to purchase tickets to three of the final four home games for as low as $50.

The $10 tickets are usually priced at $20, but have been slashed in support of the Go Green initiative around the Cincinnati game.
 
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