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Cincinnati Bearcats (official thread)

Cincinnati just lost out on their top big man target, as top-100 Chris Perry opted to commit to USF today. Cronin is going to have a hard time replacing Yancy Gates. They spent a lot of time and an official visit on Perry. Usually its pretty easy for a HM school to find a highly rated big to replace another who just left the program, but Cronin could only get a prep school project. Sucks to be you, Cronin.
 
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Cronin was quoted in an AP article as saying at the end of last season their bench got to short, and "That was really our demise in the Big East championship game and in the Ohio State game in the Sweet 16." Bench minutes in that game: Cincinnati 31, OSU 20.

It couldn't be that OSU just had better players than UC, it was either the !@#* refs or OSU was deeper even though they played their bench less than you.
 
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DZ83CK;2254129; said:
Cronin was quoted in an AP article as saying at the end of last season their bench got to short, and "That was really our demise in the Big East championship game and in the Ohio State game in the Sweet 16." Bench minutes in that game: Cincinnati 31, OSU 20.

It couldn't be that OSU just had better players than UC, it was either the !@#* refs or OSU was deeper even though they played their bench less than you.

Classic straw man argument. Wikipedia defines a straw man as a type of argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position. Your stats prove that UC played their bench more than OSU to refute Mick, suggesting that Mick said he would've beaten OSU if his bench had been as deep as OSU's bench. What Mick said was that his bench was short at the end of the season. Perhaps he was used to playing his bench double that. I don't know the numbers, and someone can look them up to prove Mick wrong, but your argument was not addressing his point.

To your point that OSU was deeper, I don't think anyone would argue that we had more depth last year. Thad never develops depth, to a fault. We certainly had better players, but to say we had better depth is unfounded. I think UC was playing 10 guys at points last year.

In summation, go take your circlejerk elsewhere.
 
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NastyNatiBuck;2254568; said:
Classic straw man argument. Wikipedia defines a straw man as a type of argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position. Your stats prove that UC played their bench more than OSU to refute Mick, suggesting that Mick said he would've beaten OSU if his bench had been as deep as OSU's bench. What Mick said was that his bench was short at the end of the season. Perhaps he was used to playing his bench double that. I don't know the numbers, and someone can look them up to prove Mick wrong, but your argument was not addressing his point.

To your point that OSU was deeper, I don't think anyone would argue that we had more depth last year. Thad never develops depth, to a fault. We certainly had better players, but to say we had better depth is unfounded. I think UC was playing 10 guys at points last year.

In summation, go take your circlejerk elsewhere.

I didn't say OSU was deeper. UC played their bench more in that game, and they had nearly a week off before the game. Nobody is worn out at the Sweet 16 - everyone entering the S16 has had basically 2 games within the last 2 weeks, to suggest a team is worn out entering it is a stretch because that's the most rested these teams have been for months. In blaming the loss on lack of depth, even though his team had more bench minutes than OSU in the game, Cronin is refusing to give credit to OSU for having better players. No doubt after the game when he was berating the officials he wasn't blaming the lack of depth then, so he picks and chooses what to blame for losing depending on the situation.

Maybe being better conditioned is part of OSU's players being better, but it wasn't conditioning that caused OSU to get a big lead by halftime, it was a bad defensive strategy to play zone and let DT get whatever shot he wanted. But of course Cronin can't blame himself for his team losing, so he's got to pick someone else to pin it on. UC didn't need any more depth, nobody plays more than 7 players meaningful minutes during the biggest games of the season. UC needed better players, or to have their starters in better condition, but Cronin can't admit it.
 
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Cronin on Realignment

?It?s a shame that football, one sport, has dictated all this and the money that one sport apparently is swinging around and swaying universities to make the decisions. We?re sitting here in a state where the state school is 800 miles from its closest road game. It?s ridiculous. Don?t tell me that people care about student-athletes.?
http://news.cincinnati.com/article/...After-silence-about-realignment-Cronin-erupts

Since when did UC become the "state school"?
 
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Juggalos suffer their first loss of the season, at home versus New Mexico, 55-54. The Lobos lost their last game, at home versus South Dakota State, 70-65.
 
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Jake;2282243; said:
Juggalos suffer their first loss of the season, at home versus New Mexico, 55-54. The Lobos lost their last game, at home versus South Dakota State, 70-65.

I forgot I posted this back in December. :lol:

Oh by the way, the Juggalos just got bounced in the first round of the NCAAs by Creighton, 67-63.
 
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Mick Cronin was especially angry looking at yesterday's game, really blew his lid time after time. And he's got this to show for it:

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