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  1. LightningRod

    LightningRod Senior

    USA Today has an article stating that MoC opted out of participating in OSU's offseason workouts. What a bummer. I understand that he has been working out on his own for quite some time, but this was a golden opportunity to be with at least a few of his friends on the team in a football environment. I was so looking forward to seeing #13 in the Shoe one more year, but this is not a good sign at all. I'm still hoping with scarlet & gray glasses on.

    Clarett Opts Out of OSU Workouts
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  3. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    I'll wait until I hear more before I write Clarett off for this season...
  4. Legalwise, it might not be a good idea until after Feb 1 which is apparently an important court date.

    Also, if there is also still a chance he might not be back, it would be more disruptive to have him part of the workouts and then leave again.

    When he is back all the way, then he should come back. Not before.
  5. Oh8ch

    Oh8ch Cognoscente of Omphaloskepsis Staff Member

    I thought he made this same choice his Frosh season when everyone else was coming to Columbus and he stayed home with his own trainer.

    I still don't see anything he is doing that isn't 100% about MC first. Every bit of rhetoric about his wanting to come back to the team is in case that is his only alternative. He is a heck of a player when he is on the field but he is cut from the same cloth as the Winslow's of the world. JMHO

    It is all about the court case. If he loses that he will be scrambling to get everything done he has to do to satisfy Geiger and JT.
  6. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    It looks like he's holding off on join the team untiul after he's cleared by the NCAA, and not just the team.
  7. Clarity

    Clarity Will Bryant Staff Member

    I think the part about it that bugs me a bit is that this would seem to be an opportunity to make a statement both to his Buckeye teammates, and the NFL as a whole, that he's serious about his game. Serious about being part of a team, etc.

    Frankly, I don't see a downside to working out with the team. But that's not even the point. I don't know why it has to be on the front page of ESPN.

    Someone in Clarett's camp feels it's important to keep his name fresh on people's minds. I know the media is Mo-crazed, but what I see in these things is a marketing campaign of questionable value.

    I want to see him running for us next year, I mean, I don't dislike winning. I also don't want to have to worry if another implosion is right around the corner. It's a bit like the Fred Davis recruitment process. I'll just be happy when it's decided and everyone can try and move on.

    I don't know if I'll ever be a fan of Mo the kid/guy/man, but I'm still a fan of Mo the player. I hope he succeeds wherever he goes, but I won't be heartbroken if it's not with us.

    A couple years ago I said "as much as I love to watch him play, I won't be sorry to see him go". I think a few others here made similar comments. I still feel the same way. I'm sorry to see the Smith's, Doss's, Krenzel's and Anderson's go. I mean, really I'm sorry to see all real Buckeyes go. Maybe this is terrible, but Mo to me feels more like a mercenary than a Buckeye. Which isn't the end of the world, I don't need kids to be as enamored with the program as I am. It just affects how I as a fan perceive them, which obviously has no real world value or impact.
  8. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    I'm going to try and look at the "glass half full" side, and think that the reason he's not returning to practice is to prevent any repercussions against him and the school for working out with the team prior to NCAA's green light.

    Yeah, I may be stretching it, but that's what I'm going with for now.
  9. Clarity

    Clarity Will Bryant Staff Member

    I don't think you're stretching it at all. Frankly I don't think there's a wrong perspective on Mo anymore. And I include some, most, or perhaps even all of the extremists one way or another.

    He's got two different lawyers playing two different brands of approaches to both his cases and his press. He's got a meddling former RB with pretty severe issues of his own. He's got his family, his friends, his teammates, a relationship with a coach who just left our team... I mean, I don't have the first damn clue who Maurice is. He could well be a well meaning honest kid who just made some mistakes that would be pretty easy to make at that age. He could also be an egomaniacal malcontent who really is a cancer behind the scenes and far more trouble than he's worth. He could be something in between, he could also be both depending on the time of day and alignment of the moons and tides.

    I was growing increasingly optimistic about Mo's return of late. I won't lie though, when I read the ESPN article, it was a reminder of some of the frustration I experienced at the height of our Mo-troubles. That's not Mo's fault, it's just the reality. Even if he comes back, collectively I think we're all going to be holding our breath all season long. Waiting for something to happen. Something bad. He may return, and that may well not happen. I mean, it's clear to all that Mo has *millions* of reasons to come back, knuckle down and excel.

    So I'll just restate my original position. I'm glad and nervous if he returns. I'm disappointed and relieved if he doesn't.

    My dream is that Mo exceeds all expectations, and comes back to OSU born again hard. He plays like a consummate team-oriented professional, avoids controversy, and rockets himself into a top-10 overall draft position. Along the way he gives us another goofy shot of Tressel holding up a crystal football, and another Heisman replica in the trophy cases. I want to get behind Mo, I'd like to like him as a person *and* a player. That is certainly my first choice. I just don't feel comfortable betting on it. Not saying you do, just saying I'm not sure any of us are all that far apart on the issue, even if it sounds like we are.
  10. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    "I'm glad and nervous if he returns. I'm disappointed and relieved if he doesn't."

    C-Dog, I think those two simple sentences can accurately summarize the feelings of about 99% of all Buckeye fans, from both ends of the spectrum.
  11. 3yardsandacloud

    3yardsandacloud Administrator Emeritus

    I'm just going along with the assumption that Maurice will NOT be back. Hopefully he will, but in my eyes that will just be a bonus for the team. Hopefully they are doing the same. Prepare as if Maurice will not be around anymore, if he does come back ... great. Too much time and energy being wasted concerning Maurice. We've got to keep the bus pointed in the right direction and hopefully Maurice will climb aboard at the next bus stop.
  12. Here's my thing on this. MoC has always busted his butt. He worked as hard or harder than anyone else when it comes to playing football. I have no concerns about him coming back in shape.

    If he comes back and then for some reason can't resume with the team next year, it is going to hurt him emotionally and it is going to hurt the team. Better to stay out until he is back for good and confirmed then hit it hard and earn the trust back.

  13. Clarity, I couldn't have said it any better....well done.

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