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Cleveland Browns (2017 Thread of Chlamydia)

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The enormous problem with peppers if he's used as a blitz specialist is the fact every time he's in the game the QB and OC are gonna lick their chops. Cause he's either blitzing and you can adjust protection to nullify him or he's in coverage which means he's burnt toast.

The two things that pissed me off about the draft the trade down only when combined with the Peppers pick and the trade back up to get Njoku. If they would have gone a different route after the trade down I wouldn't have been as pissed
 
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Buckeye86 said:
I was thinking about Peppers from the perspective of an offensive coordinator in the NFL.

It doesn't matter who- TE, RB, WR- if you can manage to get him in coverage against literally any eligible receiver he is a liability you can exploit all day.

You can also run at him all day because he 1) can't tackle 2) disappears in traffic 3) can't play in space.

If I was an OC I would go at him on every single play, run or pass.

As a DC, you have to guess correctly what blitz to send him on every single play or it seems to me he is an total liability for the defense.

But man, is he going to look athletic out there!

I also suppose there is a chance they can coach him how to cover and tackle properly--- but it's the Browns, and he's a wolverine, so I don't think anyone should hold their breath on that one.
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It's not hard to imagine Le'Veon Bell posterizing him up the middle, on the edge, and in coverage.

I love JT but he's not an elite athlete in NFL terms and had no problem juking Peppers. That should have worried a lot of teams about wasting a 1st round pick on a DB dropped to LB/Star because he was too questionable in coverage (in college!) and gets posterized in space by a guy that's unlikely to go in the first 3 rounds.
As a LB/S hybrid he's pretty small for NFL... Shazier and Chancellor are similar size with 15+ pounds and some height on him. And we've already discussed his media-legendary athleticism doesn't show itself on the field - in coverage or in space.
 
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kujirakira said:
It's not hard to imagine Le'Veon Bell posterizing him up the middle, on the edge, and in coverage.

I love JT but he's not an elite athlete in NFL terms and had no problem juking Peppers. That should have worried a lot of teams about wasting a 1st round pick on a DB dropped to LB/Star because he was too questionable in coverage (in college!) and gets posterized in space by a guy that's unlikely to go in the first 3 rounds.
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Just as troubling was the fact that he didn't catch up to Barrett for 40 yards. Barrett has great vision and sets up his defenders well (though he's hardly an elite athlete like Braxton who should make great defenders look stupid with that juke of his), but his speed is very, very average. He can't play any other position at an OSU level in college, yet he's outclassed Peppers frequently in the open field.

If he were a second round flyer this draft pick would be a lot different.
As a LB/S hybrid he's pretty small for NFL... Shazier and Chancellor are similar size with 15+ pounds and some height on him. And we've already discussed his media-legendary athleticism doesn't show itself on the field - in coverage or in space.
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:lol: media-legendary. Well done.
 
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Maybe I don't know the entire Gordon story, but it seems other guys have done worse and been punished less by the NFL.


 
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Some other guys? This guy just likes to smoke weed. Practically everyone has done worse.

Jesus. Let him piss, if it's clean, he plays. Continue to test him. How long does he have to miss for the NFL to make their point?
 
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Jake said:
Maybe I don't know the entire Gordon story, but it seems other guys have done worse and been punished less by the NFL.


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CFPBuckeye said:
Some other guys? This guy just likes to smoke weed. Practically everyone has done worse.

Jesus. Let him piss, if it's clean, he plays. Continue to test him. How long does he have to miss for the NFL to make their point?
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The guy knows the rules. The rule may be stupid, but it's still the rule. So if he has no interest in following them repeatedly...this is what happens. Lots of people can't smoke weed and keep their jobs.
 
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Bucklion said:
The guy knows the rules. The rule may be stupid, but it's still the rule. So if he has no interest in following them repeatedly...this is what happens. Lots of people can't smoke weed and keep their jobs.
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Absolutely, but from what I understand (and of course this could be wrong,) Gordon hasn't tested positive any time recently. He has shown a desire to change his way of life.

If Greg Hardy can play again, why not Gordon? It just sends a bad message.

Assaulting females is far more serious and also against the rules btw. I guess the difference is that you can pay off a victim to not testify but you can't pay off a positive drug test for marijuana.

Edit: I get it, the guy is a bonehead. But the guy has been out of the news forever. He hasn't tested positive for anything in a long while or it would be front page news. Just let the guy play and test him (like they aren't going to anyway.)
 
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