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Cleveland Browns (Finally drafting Buckeyes)

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Just when I think the Browns are turning themselves around as an organization they make this type of PR fumble. I know that Hunt is doing all the "right things" now like undergoing counseling and meeting with women's organizations but the stigma is always going to be there. It is not going to matter if he runs for 1500 yards. He hit and kicked a woman. Sure there are probably other guys out there that have done the same thing and there is no video but that does not make what he did any less worse. I do not know if he will be suspended or not because I think he would already be suspended by the NFL before the Browns signed him. Sure, the Browns have a really good running back situation with him but what does it say about the organization. Very bad decision.
 
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ScriptOhio said:
I remember Milt Plum, Bobby Mitchell, Ray Renfro, and Jim Brown. Not sure the current group tops them....:roll2:
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Script, those guys never played together. In fact, Bobby Mitchell was traded to the Redskins in order for the Browns to draft Ernie Davis. Ray Renfro was way before Jim Brown and Frank Ryan was the QB who played with Jim Brown not Milt Plum.
 
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I mean he didn’t kick her that hard, aside from the negative Pat (he was going to get signed by someone anyway) I thinks it’s a huge pick up. Browns are about 1 skill player away from legit competing. Should be able to shore up the o line/defense with the leftover cap space and I think it’s a solid team.
 
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LitlBuck said:
Script, those guys never played together. In fact, Bobby Mitchell was traded to the Redskins in order for the Browns to draft Ernie Davis. Ray Renfro was way before Jim Brown and Frank Ryan was the QB who played with Jim Brown not Milt Plum.
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Not according to these sites:

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle/1961_roster.htm

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle/1960_roster.htm

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle/1959_roster.htm

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle/1958_roster.htm
 
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Thevthing that really bothers me about this is that, to my cynical self, this looks like it’s way more about Dorsey’s ego, and he is risking the franchise in some ways to validate it. If this had been a team that said they “did extensive research” and had no prior history with him, then at least I could believe their putting forth a risk/reward analysis, even if I didn’t agree with it. But Dorsey drafted him, and I get the feeling he is way too attached to the guy. It’s like he doesn’t want him to fail only because it makes him and his repeated drafting of questionable characters look bad. So it looks to me like this move is more about Dorsey than it is the Browns.
 
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What risk to the franchise? He signed for $1 million and probably wont get a dime if the league suspends him for the season. PR risk? Plenty of guys in the league (Ray Lewis and Joe Mixon wave 'hi' with stacks of hundred dollar bills) with black marks on their records and no franchise has suffered for it. If the league clears him and he makes substantial contributions then we'll hear about it as a commentator talking point. If the team is more successful than expected, that talking point will fade quickly.
 
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https://www.yahoo.com/sports/pilot-...vertising-espn-critical-report-183727409.html

Don't mess with Jimma!
Sports Business Journal reported on Wednesday that Pilot Flying J has pulled its advertising and sponsorship agreement with ESPN two years into what was supposed to be a four-year deal, apparently in retaliation for Wickersham’s story.

The multi-platform deal included advertising during college football games, a sponsorship that made it the SEC’s official travel center, presenting sponsorship of the Saturday morning show “SEC Nation” three times per season (ESPN owns the SEC’s media and marketing rights), and agreements for ESPN talent Paul Finebaum and Laura Rutledge to endorse the company.

The deals were worth the low-to-mid seven figures annually, SBJ reported.
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Bucklion said:
Thevthing that really bothers me about this is that, to my cynical self, this looks like it’s way more about Dorsey’s ego, and he is risking the franchise in some ways to validate it. If this had been a team that said they “did extensive research” and had no prior history with him, then at least I could believe their putting forth a risk/reward analysis, even if I didn’t agree with it. But Dorsey drafted him, and I get the feeling he is way too attached to the guy. It’s like he doesn’t want him to fail only because it makes him and his repeated drafting of questionable characters look bad. So it looks to me like this move is more about Dorsey than it is the Browns.
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It could be some of that, it could be Dorsey trying to show "his" guys that he's got their back, but this is pretty extreme.

I mean, I find Josh Gordon to be a mostly sympathetic figure at this point, do we need him around? No. But I don't particularly care how much weed he smokes. Of course Hunt being a 3rd running back, the reliability issue might be lessened than a dude you need to be a #1 WR.

I'm sure I've told this story before. But back when Albert Belle was chasing kids in SUV's egging his house, I asked my old man what he thought about that. His response was, "We* don't pay him to be a humanitarian, we pay him to destroy baseballs" (*The use of "we" in this case is because by this point he - and by he, I mean his company's expense account - was a multiyear season ticket holder, so, "we" are paying him) - and, you know no one got hurt and I'd probably chase some egg throwing kids and he was their to destroy baseballs, not worry if he was turning over the post game spread in the clubhouse. And eff Fernando Vina anyway.

But this isn't any of that. And I'm about second chances too... but, I just feel like in the midst of the ongoing investigation is a little too soon to give that second chance.
 
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