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Cleveland Indians Team Preview (cnnsi.com)

Discussion in 'Professional Baseball' started by OSUBasketballJunkie, Feb 25, 2005.

  1. OSUBasketballJunkie

    OSUBasketballJunkie Never Forget 31-0

    CNNSI.COM


    I think the Indians will be the team to beat in the central division as long as Milwood gives us solid outings and Wickman stays healthy. In my opinion these two guys are the keys to the season. Our bullpen last year at the start of the season was absolutely horrible and cost us basically the division, we finished 12 games out and we blew I think around 20+ save opportunities.
     
  2. OSUBasketballJunkie

    OSUBasketballJunkie Never Forget 31-0

    Indians have Pitching rotation set

    If CC can get more consistent and Milwood gets back to form, this rotation could be one of the best in the American league.
     
  3. tsteele316

    tsteele316 Mr. Such and Such

    two things about the tribe disappoint me.

    1. Dolan. If this team is a real contender but falls a little short this year, he needs to go out and give up some cash to get a player or two where cleveland is lacking.

    2. the fans have been rather fickle to say the least. the Jake was dead silent the few games I attended, and I was there when they were 3 games out of 1st place in August.

    but nevertheless, go Tribe.
     
  4. OSUBasketballJunkie

    OSUBasketballJunkie Never Forget 31-0

    I agree..100%.......I think our payroll is around 42-46 million......that is not that much in baseball, we have some quality players and I would love for them to get involved in free agency, but I have to give them credit for sticking to the plan of bringing up the young guys, they have had some success, I just hope we can get over the hump.
     
  5. Piney

    Piney Stay thirsty my friends Former Game Champion

    I agree with you. Everyone keeps blaming Dolan for being cheap but I think he is being smart. We need to build the nucleus first before we spend money. I am looking to see if by the trade deadline if we are doing well if we go out and make a trade for somebody.

    But I am becoming more and more disappointed in so called Indians Fans. The problem with the 90s bandwagon is everyone got spoiled. Now they want to see a winner first. Sorry, but in Baseball it doesn't work that way for mid market teams. If you don't support the team in the growing stages then the team won't be able to make enough money to spend it.

    The team we have right now is young and exciting and there should be no reason to not average 30,000 a game.
     
  6. OSUBasketballJunkie

    OSUBasketballJunkie Never Forget 31-0

    Juan Gonzalez comeback watch

    If we can just get 82 productive games out of Juan Gone, it will be a great help to the Tribe.
     
  7. tsteele316

    tsteele316 Mr. Such and Such

    dont get the wrong impression. i didnt expect dolan to go out and break the bank this offseason. he didnt ante up for ramirez and thome, but we all knew the rebuilding phase was forthcoming. there is going to come a time when guys like v-mart, CC and others are going to want a payday. if cleveland is in the midst of a nice run at that time and Dolan skimps, then there's an issue.

    if cleveland is one or two pieces away from being a big time contender and dolan wont spend a little to get to the next level, then there is cause for concern.

    i've been going to tribe games for 15 years. it was quite annoying when bigwigs snared up every decent seat at the Jake to show off to clients and business buddies when they couldnt name but 3 people on the team. but, that will always be the nature of the beast.
     
  8. WestEnd

    WestEnd look ma no shoelaces, and I'm down with the KIIING

    True true, that's the double edged sword of winning for a long time ... the fans (in attendance) go corprate -- but it's gotta be that way, especially in cleveland where ticket revenue is curcial in stocking the coffers. If the fans show up in force this year, it'll really help dolan put together some change to sign a higher priced player or sign a bunch of these young guys to long-term extensions.

    In regard to Dolan's tight wallet ... I'm still not really sold that the guy isn't willing to pay to win. I think he got a bad rap because he came into a situation where the indians were way financially over-extended, and he had to reel things back into check. I have a feeling that he'll come through when necessary.
     
  9. AKAK

    AKAK If you hear the siren its already too late Staff Member Tech Admin

    Actually I think the image of Dolan as cheap is a bit unfair as of yet. Jacobs never spent 90 Million to lose 40, and I think its unfair of people to expect them to do so.

    Anyway... he could have spent money and still lost, its easy to do.

    This upcoming year should be the test though... first, in reagrd to paying the guys they have now.... (Hafner, Martinez, etc) whether those are FA's or if they give them arbitration aviodance deals... and the second part is that they'll have a better idea of what Peralta can do, hopefully a better read on Phillips and Sizemore... continuing evaluation on guys like Gerut, Broussard, Lee, and Davis. (And also, get a better read on Mike Aubrey and some of the AA level guys)... the whole point is that they will have a better idea if they sign Free Agents... who it is they need to sign... because even if you knew you had 10 mill to spend on a guy next year, they don't know if that guy needs to be a 1B or a 3B or corner outfielder or a starting pitcher or a closer or what.
     
  10. NJ-Buckeye

    NJ-Buckeye They Hate Us cuz They Ain't Us.. Banners are good Staff Member

    I like an owner that is so disgustingly rich that payroll is a non-entity... like Cuban... He just wants to win...

    Altho, I also get very disgusted when avg and below avg players make outlandish amts of money... Jimenez comes to mind... weren't we paying him something like $150K per blown save??

    I used to detest Steinbrenner... but I've come to appreciate him... the guy will spend whatever it takes... he'll do anything to win... money is never an object... not-withstanding the overall affect on baseball and fair play... the rules let him do it... don't like it?? ... change the rules...
     

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