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JonathanXC said:
Is there any way to find out how each AP voter voted, or how each coach voted...even if it doesn't say who the specific person was who voted that way, just something that lays out what each vote was?
There is no place showing how each sportswriter / coach voted, but some of the sportswriters announce who they voted for, and why. There are many sportswriters voting while only a trickle of them say who, why, what.

Also, in the past, some of the coaching staffs announced who was voted for, but haven't found anything about it lately, probably since the BCS thing started.
 
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Excellent Point

Jeezopete said:
Lost 14 players to the NFL draft. Yesterday we had one Senior playing on offense and one playing on defense and we are the 6th rated team in the nation.

I'm very proud of these guys.:bow:
You really have to admire their work ethic and humility and their record.

The hard thing to do is keep in mind that we don't care about any poll until the end of the season. It's just hard to do that. Tressel looks to play dead duck all season when he's a roaring lion.
 
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You know what is pretty bad about the Coach's poll? Iowa (2-1) is ranked 24th and Arizona State (3-0) is unranked. This coming after Arizona State's thrashing of Iowa 44-7. I did not think Iowa could lose by that many points this year. The Ohio State @ Iowa game still won't be easy...but besides Purdue it is making our Big 10 road schedule look very manageable. I mean sometimes you will see a team that is 1-1 beat a team that is 2-0 so both of them are 2-1, and the team that won the game sometimes is still just behind the other...but what the heck has Iowa done this year to be in the top 25 and what hasn't Arizona State done? The AP poll obviously got this one right, but did the coaches even look at the score or who won and played in the games? Does anybody know what Big 10 coaches get to vote in the Coach's poll?
 
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XC: The reason is simple...Iowa started out ranked and won their first two games, thus keeping themselves ranked, so even with their lopsided loss they didn't "fall far enough". As for ASU, they were initially ranked so low that even with their blowout of a ranked team, they simply "haven't risen enough". I'll end up sounding like a broken record soon because I've said this in other similar threads, but the polls shouldn't even start until mid-season, so that the voters can let the teams better position themselves by mid-season. I can guarantee you that if today's poll was the first of the season (no polls before this third week of the season) then ASU would not be ranked behind Iowa.
 
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Great point, Mili.

There are a handful of teams that make the pre-season and early season polls simply because of their traditional reputation among sports writers who don't take the time to consider their votes carefully. It's one of the advantgaes of being a "storied" program. Because they always start so high, they rarely drop as low as they should when they lose.

But it cuts both ways. Look at Notre Dame. They're 2-1, beat both Michigan Big Ten schools and aren't even in the top 25. In their case, their recent reputation as a "troubled" program is probably keeping them down lower than they actually deserve.

Mili's point is right-on, as usual. Don't poll at all till October! But because we live in a country with freedom of the press -- where every media outlet, no matter how ill-informed, has the right to publish its inane opinions -- we will just have to live with the stupidity.

Early last year, after they had thoroughly trashed tOSU, the New York Times computer poll had Notre Dame as #1 -- thereby ignoring both the facts about OSU academics and common sense about college football. But that's about what you'd expect from the NYT. Talk about being over-rated based on your historic reputation...
 
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