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Cooper shoulda done Hoover ads

Discussion in 'Buckeye Football' started by stxbuck, Dec 21, 2004.

  1. stxbuck

    stxbuck Woody wore Sambas

    With all of this stuff going on, I have to think back to the Cooper era. We didn't hear about 1/4 of the stuff that we are hearing now. That leads me to 2 possible consclusions

    1-Tressel is simply letting the athletes run wild, while John Cooper kept his whip cracking and had his players much more in line than Tressel-behavior-not academics

    OR

    2-Cooper should be a spokesman for Hoover given how good he was at sweeping dirt up/under the rug.

    My vote is for choice 2-what say everyone else?
     
  2. WoodyWorshiper

    WoodyWorshiper THINK, Before You Speak Former College Pick'Em Champ

    It's certainly option #2, BUT, Cooper never had a saga to deal with like the Clarett situation. TOSU is under the microscope, Tressel is in a situation were he MUST report (as must Geiger also) any indiscretion, no matter how minute it may seem.
     
  3. scUM Buster

    scUM Buster kick some ass

    I hope it is #2. Good point about the microscope. Somebody might want to take a closer look at that National Championship trophy and those rings...might be bugged or something
     
  4. JohnnyCockfight

    JohnnyCockfight Beer is God's proof that he loves us.

    The spotlight consequent on the winning of a national championship and ending the run of the modern-day college football dynasty, added to the spotlight of the already storied Ohio State University, made it very bright indeed.

    It wasn't so bright when Cooper held the reigns.
     
  5. CleveBucks

    CleveBucks Serenity now Staff Member

    for sure... don't kid yourself, it goes on everywhere, all the time. You also didn't hear about it every time someone was citedfor underage drinking, public intox, etc. Welcome to the internet age.
     
  6. BuckeyeNation27

    BuckeyeNation27 Goal Goal USA! Staff Member

    or he could be the hoover spokesman because he sucked against michigan
     
  7. IronBuckI

    IronBuckI Calmer than you are.

    Yeah, I was at tOSU smack in the middle of the Cooper era, and saw a lot of players around campus. It's definately #2.
     
  8. brutus2002

    brutus2002 Junior

    I was lifting with a former Buckeye DE in the fall of 2002. I asked this guy if he liked Tressel and he said "hell no I can't stand the guy." I thought he said this because he was one of Coopers players. He told me that Tressel didn't discipline his players.
    He said Eddie George or any other RB at OSU would never even thought about getting in Spencers face on National T.V. H SAID IF THEY DID cOOP WOULD HAVE SAT THEIR ASS FOR AWHILE.

    I'm starting to understand where this player was coming from. I hate to say it but the program is out of control and is embarrassing. You can only blame the players for so long and then it becomes a coaching problem.
     
  9. GoofyBuckeye

    GoofyBuckeye Nutis Maximus

    Coop had alot of bad players, you just didn't hear about it as much. His worst problem was academics. How many recruits each year didn't even get into OSU but took up a scholarship at the time? How many players on the roster had grade issues? Alot.

    I've heard the same thing, Brutus. Some players have a hard time taking Tressel seriously. He's awesome for those kids who already know the path to the straight and narrow, but he's not very good for those that need discipline in their lives.
     
  10. AKAK

    AKAK If you hear the siren its already too late Staff Member Tech Admin


    I guess we could go back and forth on this "Waxing Nostalgic" for Cooper shit.. but I still have a hard time believeing Cooper was strict disciplinarian.... and he set a poor example, IMO... (Nice Hot tub Commercial- while young adults... the players are still adults... and "do as I say, not as I do" is only going to take you so far with either the 'good' or 'bad' kids)
     
  11. tibor75

    tibor75 Banned

    agreed. I shouldn't be surprising that there are fans willing to overlook that this program might be turning a wrong corner because we beat scUM and won a national title. Funny...we criticize Miami fans for the same thing. :shake:
     
    Last edited: Dec 21, 2004
  12. JohnnyCockfight

    JohnnyCockfight Beer is God's proof that he loves us.

    Cooper was the coach throughout my 4 years at OSU, and Tressel was hired just before I graduated. I had the opportunity to meet them both, and I felt that Tressel oozed with confidence and leadership, while Cooper seemed more like a good 'ol boy you'd want to drink a beer with.

    I find it absurd that people would focus on one incident of a player getting in a coach's face and conveniently forget, or even worse suggest that Cooper's teams didn't do this type of thing because he was such a strong disciplinarian. That's a complete joke. For instance, David Boston, while one of my favorite players, was an asshole on the field, and performed taunts and celebrations that Tressel would have absolutely disciplined him for, whereas the actions continued under Cooper. You see much more respect on and off the field with the players since Tressel has taken over.

    The players used to come to our parties, and one of our tenant's was a drug dealer to the team. In both situations, the players referred to Cooper as "Coach Fucko", a lot, and generally felt no sense of "team" towards the end of Cooper's tenure. How can a player respect a coach who doesn't even know his name?

    It would be wise to sit back and see what really becomes of the current situation with Troy Smith. It's funny that people now seem to be taking the bullshit ESPN stories as more true than they did before. Let's face it--the ESPN stories and Maurice Clarett, are bullshit. Does anyone here really think that what ESPN and Clarett have done wouldn't have been done under Cooper? I hope not.

    The biggest difference, to me, is that Cooper's players got into trouble of their own volition all of the time, whereas some of the current problems seem to have been set-up, or induced by outsiders either looking to make a story or looking to take some people down.
     
  13. The KSB

    The KSB 4-4-11/11-5-11

    Miami beat scUM?
     
  14. Buckinghorse

    Buckinghorse Will work for bpCash

    I really do find it hilarious at those that don't recall the problems during the 'Cooper' era.

    On the field, off the field, at home, while away..... you really need to do your research.

    Cooper was a disciplinarian??????? I do get a chuckle from post on this board.....
     
  15. buckeyebri

    buckeyebri 40 Days in the Hole

    Thanks for bringing some folks back to reality Johnny. I can't believe that folks don't remember many of the situations that occured with the team when Cooper was the coach. It is amazing how short the memories can be.
     

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