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Cooper, Spielman, & Otis for HoF

Discussion in 'Buckeye Football' started by KevinBuck, Mar 10, 2005.

  1. KevinBuck

    KevinBuck Gave up the ghost

    Just saw that John Cooper and Chris Spielman are on this year's CFB Hall of Fame ballot--what do you guys think of their chances, this year or on future ballots? I was too young to really see Spiels in action, but of course I know he's one of the best LBs ever to play at OSU.

    Cooper I'm sure will get a mixed reaction, but I say he deserves it, if nothing else for his novelty achievement of winning the Rose Bowl from both the PAC and Big10. I believe he's just shy of 200 career wins, has a good winning %, and was instrumental in changing the way OSU (and the Big10) recruits. If only... in 1996/98--he'd be a shoo-in.
     
  2. HineyBuck

    HineyBuck Old newb

    Jim Houston and Rex Kern are also on the ballot. Both of them are overdue. I'd like to see Spielman make it also, but if he has to wait a few more years in order to get Houston and Kern in first, he'll make it eventually.

    Who is this Cooper fellow you mention?
     
  3. OSUBasketballJunkie

    OSUBasketballJunkie Never Forget 31-0

    LINK


    That is quite a list of football talent......


    no way.....:shake:

    These are some great names in OSU history...besides Coop....:(
     
  4. gbearbuck

    gbearbuck Herbie for President

    Golic, Kern, and Dickerson would get my vote... I don't know a lot of the guys but speils was somthing else, it might be a bit early for him...
     
  5. KevinBuck

    KevinBuck Gave up the ghost

    Hey, Coop's resume is the most impressive of those 10 coaches on the ballot... I didn't realize we were actually top-25 in 12 of his 13 seasons--nice. I was about 12 when he was hired, just starting to get into CFB, and I will always appreciate Cooper for the good times I had as a young Buckeye fan (and OSU student) during the 90s.
     
  6. AKAK

    AKAK If you hear the siren its already too late Staff Member Tech Admin

    Well-- if the player and coaches categories have separate voting... I'd say Coop's a lock... he's got the best career credentials on that list... I'll throw MacPherson and Nehlen some props too... but... after that....
     
  7. KevinBuck

    KevinBuck Gave up the ghost

    <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width=500 border=1><TBODY><TR><TD>Lone Star Dietz</TD><TD>Washington State</TD><TD>1915-17</TD><TD>96-62-7 (.603)</TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>Purdue</TD><TD>1921</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>Louisiana Tech</TD><TD>1922-23</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>Wyoming</TD><TD>1924-26</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>Haskell Indian Inst.</TD><TD>1929-32</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>Albright</TD><TD>1937-42</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>First of all, great name! But how about that career progression? Those all seem like steps down the food chain...
     
  8. AKAK

    AKAK If you hear the siren its already too late Staff Member Tech Admin

    I wonder if Lone Star liked to Jam his opponents....
     
  9. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    Both Kern and Otis need to be voted in. They were key in the 1968 national championship team which was voted as The Team of the Decade for the 1960s.
     
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  10. KevinBuck

    KevinBuck Gave up the ghost

    So is the CFL HoF induction process different from other sports? Is a player/coach not necessarily in by getting a certain % of votes, but through the determination of some sort of committee? That's what the article I read seemed to imply... Is there a set number or limit on annual inductees?
     
  11. gost8

    gost8 Living and loving life

    Love him or hate him, he deserves to be in... If he wins a few more scUM games, a few more bowl games, and maybe throw in a NC, he would be considered one of the greatest coaches in tOSU history. He coached 154 games and his legacy is based on 10 or 12 of them.
     
  12. ScarletArrow

    ScarletArrow I'm wearing Gold Pants

    From the college football hall of fame website

    http://www.collegefootball.org/halloffamers.php
    The College Football Hall of Fame is one of the ways in which the National Football Foundation fulfills its mission of preserving the game of college football. Founded in 1947, the NFF is dedicated to mobilizing the constructive forces of amateur football, at all levels, for the benefit of society as a whole.

    The National Football Foundation currently has more than 10,000 members in 119 local chapters nationwide and recognizes the vital role amateur football plays in the development of our nation's youth and in the education process. The NFF seeks to honor those who have excelled both on and off the field and who demonstrate the Foundation's creed of scholarship, citizenship and athletic ability. Last year, the National Football Foundation and its chapters awarded nearly $1,000,000 in scholarships to deserving high school and college scholar-athletes.

    The first class of College Football Hall of Fame inductees was selected in 1951. That inaugural class included 54 legends and pioneers of the game like Walter Camp, Jim Thorpe, Red Grange, Amos Alonzo Stagg and Knute Rockne. Today more than 900 legendary players and coaches from NCAA Division I-A, I-AA, II, III and the NAIA are enshrined in the Hall.

    Each player nominated must have: (1) received major first-team All-America recognition; (2) played his last intercollegiate game at least 10 years previously; (3) retired from playing professional football; and (4) proven himself worthy as a citizen after his football career, carrying the ideals of football forward into his community.

    A coach becomes eligible three years after retirement, providing he: (1) was a head coach for at least 10 years; (2) coached at least 100 games; and (3) won at least 60% of his games.
     
  13. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    Yeah, and Woody Hayes coached 276 games at Ohio State and his legecy is based upon one punch. Cooper's success away from the Michigan and bowl games should not be the sole factor of his induction, at least in Buckeye fans' eyes. However, since they look at his entire coaching career, I can sort of understand his being considered. He had only two losing seasons (his first year at Tulsa in 1977 and his first year at Ohio State in 1988) in 24 years as a head coach, and was 192-84-6 (.691), with six top-10, including two #2, teams in his career.
     
  14. OSUBasketballJunkie

    OSUBasketballJunkie Never Forget 31-0

    Would have, should have, could have...you know what I mean......those few wins are the difference between Cooper and Tressel.
     
  15. gost8

    gost8 Living and loving life

    Agreed but that is Woody's legacy outside the Buckeye Nation and who really cares about those people anyway?:biggrin:

    I totally agree... hindsight is 20/20. I just have always thought you shouldn't need any coach to get up for the scUM games or bowl games. Cooper's game plans and strategies were killing most other teams during those "should have been" NC years.
     

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