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If you feel that you know the answers here, and that I've simply got my head in the sand due to an Ethical Shrine that I place Jim Tressel on, so be it.

I don't feel that I have any more answers than you do. All I am saying is that when I am told by the kids recruiting advisor (who doesn't in the least bit hide that he is pro Ohio State) and by the Ohio State Recruiting coordinator at the time of the decision that the thought process on a behind the scenes basis had nothing to do with grades, I don't see any point in discussing 50% rules. This rule has never come up before and likely will never come up again. That's because it's fabricated. It's not a real criteria needed to get football players into OSU. That's where I think people have there head in the sand, to keep discussing something that to me is so obviously public relations spin.
 
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Buckem said:
How anyone can continue to keep their head in the sand on the DeJuan Morgan issue is beyond me. Helpinghand has explained the whole situation several times and stated that it had little to do with grades. If you don't believe him, I can assure you that Conley's take wasn't vague at all as to what the reasoning was behind the decision. He never even mentioned grades but rather talked about concerns over the class filling before signing day decisions were made.

You can spin it and spin it and spin it but the bottom line is Tressel pulled the kid's scholarship because he thought that there were better players available. He then didn't have the sack to tell the kid to his face, probably because deep down he knew it he wasn't in the right. Does this make him a bad football coach, no. Does it destroy the Ethical Shrine that some people have placed him on, of course. Deal with it and quit with the conspiracy theories.

Good take on the situation. I'm sure in the future when we hear about Carr or Bowden doing something similar we won't all act like that is something that doesn't happen at OSU. Yeah, sure
 
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Buckem said:
...50% rules. This rule has never come up before and likely will never come up again. That's because it's fabricated.
From what I understand, this is a relatively recent rule (within the past couple of years), as part of the University's overall efforts to raise admission standards and improve the academic credentials of every incoming class on a yearly basis, and it applies to all applicants. If I remember correctly, it did come up again, in the case of Dennis Kennedy (this was the case that I heard HH comment on, although I didn't visit BP at the time of the Morgan incident).
 
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In one article Morgan says his coach told him his scholly was being put on hold, because admission was not a sure thing. In another he says it was
withdrawn, big difference. If I recall correcrtly, the same week he got the news from OSU he committed to NSU.
 
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Sucks that it happened. I'm sure that it happens more than we know. Same thing may have happened to Kenyon Buford. We don't know, but I don't hear anyone crying for him.

It's over. The kid is going to do great at NC St.
 
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tibor75 said:
Good take on the situation. I'm sure in the future when we hear about Carr or Bowden doing something similar we won't all act like that is something that doesn't happen at OSU. Yeah, sure

Generally when I'm on the UM board I don't really care about being right. I just like pissing them off and sticking it to them.
 
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This horse has been dead for quite a while now, how long do you want to keep beating it?

Let's drag out the Richard Washington horse and beat that while we're at it..... :roll2: Oh wait we are...

The part I really loved out of all this was how Holbrook washed her hands of the whole thing.
 
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Not to sound heartless, but you know what? There's kids all over America who busted their ass to get into the college of their choice, just like Morgan did. I am sure that plenty of them shed a few tears when they didn't make it, knowing that less qualified kids did. Maybe that spot at Yale they wanted had some alumni kid's name on it. Maybe Harvard didn't want to take too many kids from Ohio. Maybe they didn't get the scholarship that they needed to go to MIT, so some kid whose dad didn't run out on their mom got to go. Maybe they live in a country that won't let them leave.

It may not be fair for Dajuan or any of them, but just like him, they go somewhere else and make the best of it. The kids I really feel for are the ones who earned the r ight to go somewhere and couldn't. DJM is going to go to school on a full ride at a pretty nice place. He'll play for a really good coach at an up and coming program in an offense that is likely to show his talents off to their fullest. Yes, it sure does sound like he didn't get a fair shake from OSU, but it also sounds like he's gotten over it.

Some of you need to also.
 
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Well Bobcat it's not like he was a flunky!!! I can tell you know nothing about what happened. This kid was an honor student at a school that has very high academic standards. He didn't finish in the top 50% of his class. He had a high G.P.A. and a qualifying tesy score.

The administartors of the school were shocked that OSU idin't take him because of his test scores and his G.P.A.

If the kid had a G.P.A. OF 2.7 and a SAT of 850 I could see us pulling it, but with his scores it's total bullshit!!!!!!!

I would match his score up with anybody we took last year. The only difference is he went to a school where 3.0+ students are average!!!
 
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