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Danny Carey, greatest drummer on the Planet

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MistriBuck

MistriBuck

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i don't know anything technical when it comes to drums, but i know what i hear when i listen to TooL's music, and he is simply AMAZING.........does anyone else share this opinion? particuarly if you're a drummer and read the various publications, or follow the culture?........all you have to do is look at his set-up, and that should tell it all, click the link, then click "technology", then "present"........i can't copy and paste cuz it's a macromedia flash

http://www.dannycarey.org/page2.html
 
Neil Peart. I know DEBuckeye has my back, and without question he's at the top of his genre. Along with Maynard, I've heard Danny Carey cite Rush and Neil Peart as key inspiration in their music in interviews and such. He's not got the perfect timing, but his fills are second to none. What he can do within the framework of a song is largely unparalleled. He's got some of the quickest hands I've ever seen, and he's the originator of the 100-piece drum-kit. Neil's probably most famous for The Rhythm Method though, his solo piece that's been a work in progress since the mid 1970's. He adds a new/different piece to it each time he plays it, and I was fortunate enough to finally witness it on their Vapor Trails tour.

"Iron" Mike Portnoy of Dream Theater, on the other hand, is his foil. Technically perfect, perfect timing, structure, but also wildly inventive. Great filling out a song as well. Plays a kit with over 100 pieces on it as well, and uses every piece he puts on for a show. He is definitely not as impressive of a soloist as Neil, however. He's very robotic and wholly uninspiring on his own, but his speed and timing behind the kit are legendary in drumming circles.
 
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Soul, you know your Prog Rock!

Other drummers from that same genre that get a lot of cred from other drummers are Bill Bruford and Pat Mastelotto.

BTW, I remember Peart saying about 8 or 9 years ago that he was working with a drum instructor that was totally tearing apart and re-constructing the way he played. But i haven't really followed rush since "Counterparts", so I don't know how his sound has actually changed. What are your thoughts?
 
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Can't remember his name right now, but the drummer from FAITH NO MORE was lights out when I saw them back in the 90's. Does anyone know his name? Lars ulrich was quoted as saying that guy was his favorite drummer.
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That would be Mike Bordin, and he is now the drummer for Ozzy Osbourne.


Actually had the pleasure of seeing Bordin live at the Ozzfest. I was actually at the show in Columbus (either 97, or 98, can't remember which off the top of my head) when Ozzy pulled out of the show and a riot at Polaris ensued. But since the other bands knew that Ozzy wasn't going to come out, they did an all-star jam for a while before announcing the no-show. I can actually say I've seen a live performance of Crazy Train with Bordin on drums, Dimebag Darrell of Pantera on lead, Peter Steele of Type o Negative on bass, and Marilyn Manson doing vocals.
 
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Neil Peart. I know DEBuckeye has my back, and without question he's at the top of his genre.
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Without question, the master. The things Neil does are amazing, both technically and musically. A drum fill of his doesn't just occupy space in the song, it adds something musically. Also, the way he'll put together a rhythm or series of sounds to convey a feeling or thought is awesome- listen to the center section of "The Big Money", or "Totem", as two examples. And live he's just incredible.

Another is Carter Beauford of the Dave Matthews Band. Incredible touch. He plays very intricate stuff with the hi-hat and quick little fills in spots you don't expect them.

Oddly enough, I also think that the guy from Blink 182 is pretty good. Considering that the music is relatively simple, he really adds a lot of extra stuff on the drums. I think he's pretty creative with what he comes up with inside of simplistic punk tunes.

I think the most awesome drummer I've ever seen live was Dennis Chambers, a jazz drummer. He's played with tons of people, but I saw him live with Micheal Brecker and Mike Stern. Absolutely amazing. During a drum solo spot, he picked up the hi-hat and walked out (still playing it) to center stage and then spent 5 minutes or so playing just that piece. You'd never think you could be amazed by just a hi-hat, but he did it.
 
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I too have been a lifelong Rush fan and cannot disagree with Peart. In my opinion Tool is the Rush of this generation. Very technical, artsy, epic songs, and considered hard for the time period.

Another guy that I think rocks that does not do a lot of technically difficult stuff is Dave Grohl. I love the way he plays.
 
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What? LARS? WHAT? Sorry to dog on your opinion here guy, but I think Lars just figured out the snare drum existed in 2001.

I think I have LESS respect for Lars Ulrich as a drummer than I do for most people. Talk about robotic, I haven't ever heard him venture outside the framework of a song unless it was an honest mistake, not that those don't happen with Lars. I'm sorry, but it was James that made Metallica what they were/are. Lars, at his best, is an average drummer. For proof, I submit Dream Theater's live cover of Master of Puppets.

Oh, plus it's Lars that's the driving force behind their greedy fucktardery. Doesn't anyone remember Metallica bitching about the ability for a tape to record a song off the radio? They were the first in line to demand the shutdown of P2P sharing, too. Greedy fucks.

Neil sounds as good as he ever did. I had no idea he was working with a teacher... I'm going to have to go back and listen, see if I can pick out some of the stuff...
Test for Echo is probably best in extremely small doses, and the cheese factor of some of the songs is pretty bad (Virtuality might be my least favorite Rush song ever). There is at least one gem on the album though, Driven. However, Vapor Trails is definitely EXCELLENT... completely worthy of a listen if you haven't heard them since Counterparts. Same thing for Feedback, but it's just a bunch of (amazingly done) covers.

As for modern day Peart? It's gotta be Portnoy, and the modern day Rush is (and for my money, has been for a dozen years now) Dream Theater. Tool's one of my favorite bands, don't get me wrong, but I don't think they equate to Rush AS WELL as some do. Dream Theater has (17) 10 minute+ songs... beautiful musical arrangments... a singer who gets on people's nerves easily (simultaneous laugh and groan every time I think about people being annoyed by Geddy :roll2:)... they're the most hardworking and technically perfect band I've ever seen. They're never 'taking time off', they're always touring, doing solo projects, working with their side bands, or in the studio. Their playing is definitely a full time job for them, and I don't know their work habits but I'd say it's more than a 40 hour/week thing. The thing that sells me as the modern day Rush though? They're MUCH bigger in countries that aren't the US. They sell out venues in Japan, Sweden, Finland, Germany, Austria, and others the way Tool does in the US... in 30 minutes. Granted, Rush did finally hit it big, Dream Theater's popularity is sorta picking up here in the USA, too.
 
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