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Darrell Hazell (official thread)

Discussion in 'College Football' started by BuckNutty, Feb 12, 2004.

  1. kinch

    kinch Wash me Staff Member

    Hazell speaks at alumni event

    I attended an event tonight for the Ohio State Alumni Club of Greater New York (yes, I wish it was THE Ohio State UNIVERSITY Alumni Club of Greater New York too, :)). Assistant Coach Darrell Hazell spoke at the event.

    I went to the event having no idea what to expect. There could be 10 people there or 200 (there were about 30). All I knew was that the proceeds of the ticket sales and any other fund raising was primarily to go to scholarships for local New York metropolitan area kids to attend The Ohio State University. The recipient of this upcoming year’s scholarship, as well as his parents, were in attendance. The young man is a great, smart kid, a fine addition to Ohio State, and he is an Ohio State football fan who is planning on traveling out for the non-conference games that take place before the school year.

    So I didn’t know if football was going to be much of the program. Silly me. It was all football—and Hazell was more candid than I expected.

    Following is all that I can remember from Hazell’s comments and from what he said while chatting afterwards. And, before I forget, Hazell is an amazing, natural, intelligent speaker and represents the university very well. Even my wife, a casual fan, was very impressed (though she kept talking about his suave cufflinks and charisma too – I think she liked him. . . :P). Much or most of the following is old news to most of you, but much of it was interesting to me, and I figure I might as well jot down everything I can remember, even if it isn’t anything “grand,” to me, being there, it was great just because of who was speaking. So just read quickly and see if anything interests you. . . Oh, and the only down point of the night: Coach Hazell was introduced as the receivers coach at the end of his introductory biography, ignoring his recent advancement (being the class act he is, he addressed all the personnel changes in the staff and didn’t even mention his). . .


    On Recruiting

    Hazell first pointed out that while he sees all the conjecture about who we get and who we don’t, and specifically hears about who we “missed,” in reality we don’t know what is going on in the “war room” and that the people we think they “missed” on are often ones that they weren’t high on trying to lure into the program. The way he framed recruiting, it seemed like we get who we want, at least for the most part. He mentioned that Michigan got one player last year that we wanted (I wonder who? :biggrin:). He also said that Michigan has 5 outstanding players produced each year in-state, while we have 35 or so in Ohio. He stated this while addressing a question regarding our national recruiting. For us, he said, it simply doesn’t pay to send more than one guy out to California, for instance, to try and pick a few guys up. We have so much here and it almost always requires an uncle, cousin, or something other link to get a far west guy to come to Ohio State. Michigan can research that, our interests are better focused elsewhere.

    He also mentioned that Malcolm Jenkins, of Piscataway New Jersey, is an example of where by the tape (Ohio State uses about 4 or 5 recruiting services for this) didn’t show the player that showed up at camp. This was a kid who gave it his all and was outstanding in camp and was offered. (This says something about all the rankings, etc., who don’t get this kind of experience with the kids – we don’t know how good they may be, and neither do they. . .)

    He also mentioned they are looking for 18 ACTs and around 1000 SATs.

    For next year, he said we will go for 2 running backs, Chris Wells and a speed back. We will also try for 4 linebackers.

    Haw “Situation”

    I might as well get this one out now. He said he expects a one or two game suspension.

    Upcoming season:

    Wow, he is excited about this team. Also, I loved how when someone asked him about how to deal with Vince Young he just said, “man, that’s the second game” or something like that. One game at a time, of course. . .


    He stated that freshmen will compete and play at some positions. The first one he named was defensive backs, and he did it quickly. He also said freshmen will help out with the offensive line a bit. Wells is addressed in:

    Running Backs

    He said that there is going to be a fight between Wells and Haw for the #2 spot, and it isn’t clear who will win. Maybe this is due to Haw’s current situation, but it sounded like more of a season-long type comment. Maybe this is just the normal speak now to try to spark Haw into shape? He said if we go through those two maybe Smith, or then Ginn, would get in the game (half-joking).


    Nothing to say, he just mentioned that we were loaded with a laugh, a very happy one. . .


    This is pretty set now anyway, it seems, but he spoke of Smith as the quarterback; he didn’t mention Zwick (or Boeckman) when talking about the upcoming season, while he did mention how formidable we will be with Ginn on one side followed by Pittman (I assume he meant lined up as a tailback still), Smith at QB, then Gonzo and Holmes. . . No doubt that Smith is the man, from the way it sounded (and Pittman). Of course he was addressing a question about Smith. Also, he mentioned that they have been focusing much more on a more open offense, as seen at the end of last year. (Of course.)


    Ginn in red zone situations, man to man. Nothing new.

    Punt Returns

    He spoke for a bit about how putting both Ginn and Holmes back on punts we will be able to limit the punting-away aspect of the other team, and that how if, for instance, Ginn gets the punt, Holmes will be able to take out that first defender and then bam!, Ginn is gone. . . I couldn't get a feel for how often they may do this. . .


    He, as a class act, would not address specific players with academic problems. We know of one, though, of course. (He was surprised we knew, you could tell.)

    He said they have two employees who visit the classes on players’ schedules and see if they are attending class. . .

    Going Pro

    College serves to prepare someone for life. If a player is going to go pro and make $10 million, they don’t try to talk him out of it. However, if a player isn’t a top pick, they work with the situation. Holmes was debating going pro last year, and though he may have been a second round pick, a Colts person told them that Holmes could use more work and size, etc., and Holmes stayed. . .

    They are big on getting the people who leave early their education. “Tress,” he said, is very big on the education. Vrabel is doing this now (as Eddie did).

    Okay, I tired of typing, and typing not much new, and can’t remember everything else for now. Most of this is just filler anyway. . .

    Gotta say one more time though, I really like Hazell and the way he represented our program and university.
    Last edited: May 26, 2005
    LordJeffBuck, jwinslow, Deety and 2 others like this.
  2. Misanthrope

    Misanthrope Banned

    Thanks for taking the time to fill us in on a coach's perspective. He should know what's going on.

    I can't say I'm surprised at the one or two games for Haw, although there's still a part of me that wants someone to get their ass kicked to wake up this bunch...I don't know whether that would work, though. :smash:

    As for the 18 on the ACT, I think they gave us that much for signing our name. Criminy, I got hit with a bad case of the runs halfway thru the damn thing and still posted a 31. Oh well...:roll2:

    I'm excited about this year's team, too. I just hope we can get a break from the off-the-field nonsense, and give the media some FOOTBALL to talk about, rather than the latest incident.

    Go Bucks!
  3. Oh8ch

    Oh8ch Cognoscente of Omphaloskepsis Staff Member

    Great post - thanks.

    The section on recruiting needs to be brought up about every month all year and every other day during the heat of recruiting. Particularly the part about the various services they use - none of which are Insiders or Rivals I can promise you.
  4. scUM Buster

    scUM Buster kick some ass

    Exellent post. Great info.
  5. jwinslow

    jwinslow A MAN OF BETRAYED JUSTICE Staff Member Tourney Pick'em Champ

    Great post.

    I'm thrilled to hear him mention DBs, frosh and PT right away. I've been pumped about Jamario for a while, and those hopes just skyrocketed further after seeing him play incredible in the Army AA game. The best part is he can come in and solidify the other corner position (giving us more ability to go bump and run perhaps once he's ready), or he can adjust slowly and we will still be fine.

    While none of us like what haw did, he definitely shouldn't be the one kicked to the curb. I would make haw sit out the first game, and then in the second game make him sit out a number of series (which would be especially effective if we struggle to run the ball at first against their venerable DL). It would get the message across while he sits there and knows he could do better.
  6. sandgk

    sandgk Watson, Crick & A Twist

    kinch -- great write-up. Guess you had to take all the notes what with your wife ogling those big cufflinks on Hazell's wrist's. :wink2:

    Sounds like you got into a good event, for a great cause. Sometimes these functions can be bland, you were in luck as this one proved reasonably revealing.

    In particular, I am thrilled to hear that Wells will get a straight up shot at the RB position. Regardless of Haw's recent transgression we all wish him well. Still, the added depth at RB will be a bonus. (In truth, seeing Wells run was the only thing I "missed" at the Spring Game -- I hope Hazell's words point to much 3rd down PT for Wells).

    One specific question -- did anyone ask about the pass-rush or Defensive Ends?
  7. Helpinghand

    Helpinghand Freshman

    Great post, thanks for sharing it.

    I am glad he talked about the recruits. A lot of kids that the boards think OSU wants, is at times not true. Just because a recruit tells Rivals or Scout something, it's not always true.

    On Holmes, we actually had him "evaluated" for his potential draft pick status. There is a service you can signup for.
  8. kinch

    kinch Wash me Staff Member

    No, not really. In fact, I don't remember much talk about the defensive line at all. He did mention that we look good but maybe could work on depth there.

    I should have mentioned that he did speak a bit about how with putting both Ginn and Holmes back on punts we will be able to limit the punting-away aspect of the other team, and that how if, for instance, Ginn gets the punt, Holmes will be able to take out that first defender and then bam!, Ginn is gone. . .

    He also was very funny when speaking about the Oklahoma State game, and in talking about other randomes things. The coaches planned every scenario where Zwick might go down (in the 1st quarter, the 4th, winning, losing big, etc.) and what to do about it. He said when Zwick's hamstring popped he went over to see if Zwick was okay and Zwick didn't even respond - and he was ghost white. They thought he would be back soon and used Ginn to buy a series, and we know the rest.
  9. osugrad21

    osugrad21 Capo Regime Staff Member

    This works both ways as well...

    Kids who look great on film and have great measurables may have been different in person...hence, no offer.

  10. bukIpower

    bukIpower Senior

    GREAT POST!!one thing I liked about that was the way he talked about wells! I mean I think no doubt Haw would be #2 if it wasn't for what he did, but I'm sure Wells will turn some heads now that he has the chance! With that kind of speed on offense we very well might have one of the fastest offenses in the nation, and that includes our more mobile lineman we're suppose to have now.

    Another thing that isn't really a surprise to us is that way he talked about Smith as our QB. Sounds like they want Smiths speed to exploit teams, but without turning this into another Smith/Zwick thread I just want to win.
  11. Thanks Kinch. Much appreciated!

    Go Bucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  12. Oh8ch

    Oh8ch Cognoscente of Omphaloskepsis Staff Member

    Great point. I have always said that the most accurate way the fans (absent an inside source) can rank a recruit is to look at his offer sheet late in the process. But even that is not always accurate as we are relying on the players to do the reporting on that (Kenyon Buford).
  13. BearBuck27

    BearBuck27 Game Day!!!

    Thanks Kinch, Great writeup.

    The things about Wells sound very encouraging.

    Man is it September yet???????
  14. GoBucks459

    GoBucks459 Newbie

    Great post bud, im glad that he spoke as Smith is the starter from gm. 2 on, which is an issue im worried bout cuz i know we'l be best under Smith's leadership rather than JZ's....Also, good he talked about Maurice Wells...i know he can make a huge impact in Cbus OH, also that secondary freshman comment could be talking about Tarblooder Jamario taking that spot opposite to Youbouty....btw, do u guys know if they tried Everett on that spot? so everett and whitner dont have to share time ev. can just start corner

    we'l c....
  15. '68Flask

    '68Flask B-Deck, Dogs and Spirits

    I am encouraged that we are going to be infiltrating New York State to a greater degree. Coach H's speech and Q & A afterwards can only bolster our presence (as witnessed by the curiosity) in the NorthEast.

    Sending great ambassadors like coach H. will reap benefits in the future. He presents an outstanding model for recruits. :)

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