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Defending OSU

Discussion in 'Buckeye Football' started by chuck_jax, Mar 10, 2005.

  1. chuck_jax

    chuck_jax Newbie

    I'm borrowing from a recent thread regarding Ginn, plus a perennial thread regarding how easy it has been for teams to defend OSU's offense by simply putting 8 guys in the box and waiting for the anemic running attack.

    Now that Ginn is "in" and OSU's QB's can seemingly find him, how dare anyone put 8 guys in the box? Slant to Ginn and it's 6.


    Comments? (other than I've taken over for dumbass post of the week?)
     
  2. Buckeye513

    Buckeye513 Stable Genius

    Teams double covering, triple covering, or spying on Ginn will be easily beaten by Holmes and Gonzales. Our offense just has too many weapons for an opposing team to gameplan for one player.
     
  3. If they put 8 in the box that means the middle will be congested you have to go over the top. C'mon man you know that. Also you run a slant to a middle backer and ginn might get a good pop. I promise that we wont be doing this.
     
  4. Bestbuck36

    Bestbuck36 Kyle Young man crush. Not ashamed

    Why would you put 8 men in the box against a team that can't run? We haven't been a good running team for two years!

    I would beg for 8 in the box right now! Holmes, Gonzales and Ginn in one on one situations???? Fuggid abowdit!!
     
  5. Steve19

    Steve19 Watching. Always watching. Staff Member

    I know that it is not a widely-held opinion on BP but I think we will have a running game this year. They won't put 8 in the box to stop it but it won't be what it has been the last two years either. I am very optimistic especially about Haw.
     
  6. BrutusBobcat

    BrutusBobcat Icon and Entertainer

    I am optimistic about our running game due to the simple fact that it could not possibly get worse.
     
  7. Steve19

    Steve19 Watching. Always watching. Staff Member

    Yeah, I noticed that Ross was not happy with his 40 times for the NFL. Now, he knows what we have felt like in recent years! :slappy:
     
  8. scooter1369

    scooter1369 Chief Toad Fart

    Speed is one issue. But Ross needs to be concerned with getting some yards before a stiff breeze knocks him down. In the last two years, he may have broken 7 tackles. That's horrible for a guy weighing 220 or better.
     
  9. Yeah but teams still put 8 in the box last year

     
  10. MililaniBuckeye

    MililaniBuckeye The satanic soulless freight train that is Ohio St Staff Member Tech Admin

    We actually ran the ball fairly well with Pittman when opponents didn't jam the line...Pittman averaged 5.3 ypc for the season despite being stuck in some clock-killing situations (i.e., The Game) where has was just asked to hold onto the ball.

    Obviously, with a truly improved OL and two more fast backs available (and one of them having good size), our running game should be more than satisfactory.
     
  11. dragonknight

    dragonknight Newbie

    If OSU used our personel right over the last few years noone could've put 8 in the box on us. OSU should abuse people with Holmes more this year. Ginn has become the #1 priority and the guy who defenses will focus on. Holmes one on one is always a mismatch in our favor. Gonzo is a great #3. He's a speed guy who can worry safeties deep. If I'm an opponent this year I'm definately playing two deep safeties and making OSU prove they can run well enough to win the game. We haven't proven we can do that since Clarett.
     
  12. Alan

    Alan Banned

    similar to what dragon just said....

    one philosophy is "use the pass to set up the run"......well....i think tosu and the shot-ginn formation is "using speed to set up the run."

    it's a small difference.....
     
  13. rocketman

    rocketman flying low

    Now, I don't have time to look this up (damn finals all next week), so I was wondering if some of the other guys could do a little research.

    With the Ginn-Holmes-Gonzo tri-fecta, we can consider our receiving corp one of the best in CFB. Who is notably better, or can atleast compare?

    Also, who has a secondary that can come close to cointaining or receivers? Or to narrow the list even further, who is capable of shutting down our receivers? Doesn't matter if we don't play them next year, just to make comparisons.
     
  14. LordJeffBuck

    LordJeffBuck Illuminatus Emeritus Staff Member Tech Admin Bookie

    I won't attempt to answer the question. However, don't forget about Devon Lyons and Roy Hall as the "size" receivers. I think that Lyons is going to be a special players, and Hall certainly has the talent. At least one of them should make some significant contributions this year.
     
  15. BucksinFL

    BucksinFL Buckeye fan for life.....

    If they put 8 in the box then you run a PA pass 15+ yards down the middle of the field...

    Keeps the players from gettin popped and holds the Linebackers and safeties...
     

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